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- wa8yxmExplorer IIII will join the use the special connectors designed for the job chorus.
Avoid joining AL to CU if possible but if you must use the proper AL/CU or CU/Al connector for it is designed for the job.
Standard connectors not good for this. Corrosion will set in, resistance goes up and with a Stove or oven which are HIGH CURRENT devices.. bad things can happen (like fires) - DrewEExplorer II
Gdetrailer wrote:
Regardless I would not make a direct splice period even though there are splices designed for this issue..
Instead consider installing a plug and receptacle.
Place receptacle in a accessible location beside or near the oven, this now allows you to easily unplug and remove oven for future servicing or replacing. Gets rid of the al to copper interfacing issue and gives you an emergency means of disconnecting the oven..
For home, may require checking code to see if you need a service switch in addition to the receptacle..
I am a bit shocked that any appliance would come with a aluminum wire lead.. Typically there is an access panel that gives you terminals so you can add a pigtail with plug of your choice or you add your own wire to the oven terminals.. Check to see if there is a terminal box..
This is spot-on advice. Typically from what I've seen the receptacle is installed low on the wall in back of the range, and can be accessed without moving the range (albeit none to conveniently) by removing the storage drawer underneath the oven.
It runs through my mind that the electric code requires some disconnection means within some reasonable distance to the range, so a socket and plug or safety switch is needed if it doesn't happen to be quite close to the electric panel. I may be all wrong about that, though; I haven't verified that my memory and understanding is correct. Regardless, it's a good idea in any case. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerJeezo any professional electrical wholesale supply will be glad to set you up with the correct interface connector. TIN PLATING is the common denominator between AL CU. The 2 different wires never touch each other they get crimped to tin plated copper. The tin plating is quite thick.
- Any way to get into the oven and replace the AL with CU? Of course the internal connection needs to be compatible.
- SDcampowneroperExplorer
SDcampowneroperator wrote:
a bit of dielectic grease maybe? for an indoor oven?
get an electician with the proper connectors. Or if you are handy and do your research, get the right connectors.
I once had an 1981 Lincoln Electric SA 200 portable welder with AL. windings to CU. cables. It was awful, The heat from resistance caused voltage drop, anperage increase burning out the connections.
A constant current (150 ishamp ) variable voltage welder( 28 - 48ish v) SMAW process is a different critter but the same rules apply, When amperes increase the size of the cable must also increase.
Think of it like a mountain waterfall or a slow river. They both move the same amount of water energy over a given distance in the same amount of time. That is the v/a simple definition.
Camps are full of underground AL. cables to AL. bus to CU. wiring to the plug. Even your house likely has AL. wire to the panel.
Applying the rules of electrolytic corrosion between dissimillar metals requires dielectric coatings and weather proof lubricant in enclosures.
In a mobile welder, open to the weather, it failed. In a home or campground with protected enclosures its great. Your issue can be resolved with the right weatherproof, dielectric compatible connector. - GdetrailerExplorer III
12th Man Fan wrote:
I just bought a new oven and it came with aluminum wire and I have to splice it to copper. Do I need to do something different for this connection?
I know aluminum and copper doesn't play well together in some instances.
Thanks in advance for the you help.
New oven for home or RV?
Regardless I would not make a direct splice period even though there are splices designed for this issue..
Instead consider installing a plug and receptacle.
Place receptacle in a accessible location beside or near the oven, this now allows you to easily unplug and remove oven for future servicing or replacing. Gets rid of the al to copper interfacing issue and gives you an emergency means of disconnecting the oven..
For home, may require checking code to see if you need a service switch in addition to the receptacle..
I am a bit shocked that any appliance would come with a aluminum wire lead.. Typically there is an access panel that gives you terminals so you can add a pigtail with plug of your choice or you add your own wire to the oven terminals.. Check to see if there is a terminal box.. - SDcampowneroperExplorerget an electician with the proper connectors. Or if you are handy and do your research, get the right connectors.
I once had an 1981 Lincoln Electric SA 200 portable welder with AL. windings to CU. cables. It was awful, The heat from resistance caused voltage drop, anperage increase burning out the connections.
A constant current (150 ishamp ) variable voltage welder( 28 - 48ish v) SMAW process is a different critter but the same rules apply, When amperes increase the size of the cable must also increase.
Think of it like a mountain waterfall or a slow river. They both move the same amount of water energy over a given distance in the same amount of time. That is the v/a simple definition.
Camps are full of underground AL. cables to AL. bus to CU. wiring to the plug. Even your house likely has AL. wire to the panel.
Applying the rules of electrolytic corrosion between dissimillar metals requires dielectric coatings and weather proof lubricant in enclosures.
In a mobile welder, open to the weather, it failed. In a home or campground with protected enclosures its great. Your issue can be resolved with the right weatherproof, dielectric compatible connector. - cavieExplorer
enblethen wrote:
You can coat the wires with electrical de-oxidation grease and use a standard wire nut rated cu/al.
non you can not' use cu/al butt splice crip connectors. copper on one side Al on the other. or cu/al split bolt connectors. - You can coat the wires with electrical de-oxidation grease and use a standard wire nut rated cu/al.
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