The cat is out of the bag ! New Honda Generator !!

pianotuna wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:


Unless you are leaving it outside in the rain with the cap off...once it draws the moisture from the air in the tank, it's largely done.

There is a vent in the tank, at least in mine.

Sure but the tiny hole isn't going to change over the air in the tank very often.

Bobbo wrote:

So carry an additional propane bottle or a gas can. I can see no difference between those two choices. For me, the increase in BTU's from gasoline would be the deciding difference. Not to mention, more gasoline can be had, literally, EVERYWHERE. Even when the gas station is closed sometimes. Finding propane can be more problematic, as we discovered at 6pm one Saturday night while boondocking when our propane tank ran empty and we discovered that the second propane tank had developed a leak in the pigtail, and was also empty. Fun times.

Agreed. I have also run extremely low on propane because of a similar issue when my current 5er was about a year old. It can happen. I could run my Hondas, but not the furnace, so I fired up the electric space heater to keep things from freezing. I normally wouldn't worry, but we had a sudden cold snap and the air temps were in the teens.

Bobbo wrote:

Lantley wrote:
carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. . . . An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.

So carry an additional propane bottle or a gas can. I can see no difference between those two choices. For me, the increase in BTU's from gasoline would be the deciding difference. Not to mention, more gasoline can be had, literally, EVERYWHERE. Even when the gas station is closed sometimes. Finding propane can be more problematic, as we discovered at 6pm one Saturday night while boondocking when our propane tank ran empty and we discovered that the second propane tank had developed a leak in the pigtail, and was also empty. Fun times.

for me it's either gas or it needs to be tri fuel, gas, propane or NG. I have my honda's converted to tri fuel. that way if we loose power I can run the generator for an "infinite" time on NG and keep the house warm. if we don't have NG or electric, well then it's likely there is another major issues such that we wouldn't in the house anyway,

Gas when we are traveling, NG in an emergency at home.

Just hope there is never a leak in the gasoline can ;)

Lantley wrote:
carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. . . . An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.

So carry an additional propane bottle or a gas can. I can see no difference between those two choices. For me, the increase in BTU's from gasoline would be the deciding difference. Not to mention, more gasoline can be had, literally, EVERYWHERE. Even when the gas station is closed sometimes. Finding propane can be more problematic, as we discovered at 6pm one Saturday night while boondocking when our propane tank ran empty and we discovered that the second propane tank had developed a leak in the pigtail, and was also empty. Fun times.

I don't disagree that lp has it shortcomings. But carrying/transprting gas just for the genset becomes its own issue. Especially when you have LP to spare.
Fuel injection does not solve the gas can issue. An additional lp tank generally resolves the effeciency issue.
If you have a diesel vehicle lp becomes a more viable option vs. dedicated genset gas cans.

Bobbo wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
What any of this has to do with Honda's new generator is a rv.net mystery....

My understanding is that the new Honda generator runs on gasoline. If I am mistaken, please educate me.

And my dirt bike is a Honda and also runs on gasoline, so it wouldn't be off topic to start talking about it in this thread, by your logic...
And it's fuel injected....we should change this to the dirtbike thread! LOL

valhalla360 wrote:

Lantley wrote:
The real mystery is why Honda did not consider a LP fuel option?

Because fuel injection largely eliminates fuel related problems.

But mostly because LP generators are less effective and less efficient and use up your propane very quickly. IMO, the advantages of LP generators are quickly up-staged by the short comings of them.

StirCrazy wrote:


thats why people who do a lot of grocery trips seam to need to use methanol (gas line antifreeze) in the winter. this allows water to mix with the fuel but it doesnt adsorb it either and isn't good to use in moderen vehicles. a water filter is the best way to do it.

The origin of the claim is that ethanol is classified as a "hygroscopic" substance, note the spelling: hygroscopic...". It is HYGRO, with the letter "G." and that the general dictionary definition for a hygroscopic substance is that it can attract moisture from its enviroment. so it doesnt adsorb it but it atracts it. for example if you put a open bottle of whisky on the counter, the level wont go up.

I could also point out the spelling of moderen, adsorb, enviroment and atracts....lol!

Never seen a water separator on a gas powered vehicle. Also you meant "used to" need to use gas line anti-freeze. Unless one is running non ethanol, even E10 will mix or adsorb or whatever you want to call it, enough water that adding alcohol to prevent fuel line freezing is virtually a thing of the past.

I am bummed that I can't make more whiskey by leaving the cork out of the bottle though....

jjrbus wrote:
I would be happy if Honda came back out with the EV4010 or 6010. I sold a 4010 with an RV 12 years ago and been kicking myself ever since!

And, I'd like to buy a new Stihl 036, circa late 90s, a new 1998 12V Cummins truck and a whole bunch of other things. But you know the old saying "Wish in one hand, ____ in the other and see which one fills up first!"