The Lead Acid Carbon Battery Explained (A Link)

Geeeesh! I can't even concentrate long enough to read my prescription instructions anymore. I looked at the definitions of the abbreviations used and saw that they were actually using them and started thinking about seeing how long my A/C will run with my generator. Let me know how it ends. Thanks.

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WHITE PAPER

Graphs, Charts, Tests, Analysis.

http://www.ecoult.com/images/files/white-papers/Ecoult_UltraBattery_White_Paper_Technical_Version.pdf

The USN is perhaps the most experienced user, and developer of FLA batteries that will ever be. They literally wrote the book on battery maintenance and failure analysis. I remember Exide, housing am engineering crew on Mare Island in the mid 1950's. My dad explained, that compared to the compliment that was there in WW II, what I saw was a skeleton crew. From what I have seen come out of India, the made in USA batteries for today's submarines are better yet. 380 volts is nothing to fool with :)

My only training and experience in operation was with Lead Acid batteries on Diesel and Nuclear Submarines. Cells weighing as much as a Volkswagen. :R

Interestingly, all of our current Nuclear Submarines still have Lead Acid batteries as an emergency power source

While Lead Acid batteries can gas off Hydrogen and when exposed to sea water will produce Chlorine Gas, other type batteries are not without their very own issues.

Deka, is one company that issues forth very little hyperbole. If Deka claims certain attributes, you can bank on them being accurate.

I have zero exposure never mind "experience" with carbon batteries therefore, to me, learning about them is a priority issue.

They brag about it being low cost. However, I have seen tens to hundreds of battery improvements.

If it does help with damage below 50% SoC, I'd pay a little bit extra for it, because that effectively doubles my battery capacity. I won't pay twice as much, but 10-25% more.

I just don't understand how supercaps are going to help. They don't hold much charge relatively. At best, they are used with solar/wind charging systems as an energy bank to allow the charge controller to continue charging the batteries even if a cloud goes by, or after the sun goes down. I especially don't understand how it prevents damage from being below 50% SoC...

Two questions:
1 - Are they available?
2 - Are they $$available$$?
Sounds like they are no more expensive to make. But that hardly ever translates to no more expensive to buy. I have noticed that our new trailer, loaded with LED goodness, doesn't drain the batteries anywhere near our old trailers. I couldn't justify the expense, the way we use our trailer.

Another discussion of these over here:

http://forum.solar-electric.com/discussion/350048/eastpenn-deka-ultrabattery#latest

They bring up Trojan's SmartCarbon and Outback too.

Not sure if these Deka UltraBatterys are readily available.