Those Square 5-Gallon Collapsible Water Jugs

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

I think I have the Firefox add on (No more 404's?)

I googled that... I think it is unrelated. I posted a link -- click on 'this' as in, 'I use this one'. Let me know if I should just repost. I really think this thing will improve your life :).

Down here, the amoebas have thirty three eyes. No way José, does that get ingested. Thanks for the recycling codes. My coffee cup is a Wal-Mart 20 oz Bubba,

I think I have the Firefox add on (No more 404's?)

I'm at the store. Both it's modem and Niner's G-4 phartsmone internet have to travel south 500 miles by microwave towers to La Paz, where an Internet Service Divider, that I suspect consists of (5) Pentium 1 computers, connects to a 900 mile long fiber optic cable that runs north to Tijuana. After that only God knows where the signals go. Or don't.

Bleach is the only thing that kills bacteria. With chemicals it "reacts", destroying some and changing others.

In water it breaks down "mostly" into table salt. But it also releases hydroxyl radicals "HO", that can oxidize organic compounds present in water. This is where my understanding of chemistry ends. I guess possible dangers will depend on what organic compounds are there.

Thanks, Tuna!

Mex, did you see my post about the Firefox addon?

The numbers (long post)

Plastic #1 (PETE OR PET)
This is polyethylene terephtalate, also known as PETE or PET. Most disposable soda and water bottles are made of #1 plastic, and it’s usually clear. This plastic is considered generally safe. However, it is known to have a porous surface that allows bacteria and flavor to accumulate, so it is best not to keep reusing these bottles as makeshift containers.

Plastic #2 (HDPE)
This is high density polyethylene, or HDPE. Most milk jugs, detergent bottles, juice bottles, butter tubs, and toiletries bottles are made of this. It is usually opaque. This plastic is considered safe and has low risk of leaching.

Plastic #3 (PVC )
This is polyvinyl chloride, or PVC. It is used to make food wrap, bottles for cooking oil, and plumbing pipes. PVC is a tough plastic but it is not considered safe to cook food near it. There are phthalates in this material–softening chemicals that interfere with hormonal development. You should minimize use of #3 plastic around food as much as possible. Never cook using food wrap, especially in a microwave oven. If the wrap is listed as microwave-safe then I would still not let it touch the food while using it in the microwave.

Plastic #4 (LDPE)
This is low density polyethylene (LDPE). It is used to make grocery bags, some food wraps, squeezable bottles, and bread bags.

Plastic #5 (PP)
This is polypropylene. ( PP ) Yogurt cups and similar wide-necked containers are often made from it, as well as water bottles with a cloudy finish. You’ll also find it in medicine bottles, ketchup and syrup bottles, and straws. This plastic is also considered safe,

Plastic #6 (PS)
This is polystyrene, or Styrofoam, from which disposable containers and packaging are made. You’ll also find it in disposable plates and cups. Evidence is increasingly suggesting that this type of plastic leaches potentially toxic chemicals, especially when heated. I suggest avoiding the use of #6 plastic as much as possible.

Plastic #7 OTHER
This number basically means “everything else.” It’s a mixed bag, composed of plastics which were invented after 1987. Polycarbonate falls into this category, including the dreaded BPA. So do modern plastics used in anything from iPods to computer cases. It also includes some baby bottles and food storage containers which resist staining. Use of #7 plastic is at your own risk, since you don’t know what could be in it. You should dispose of any food or drink related product, especially for children that is known to contain BPA.

To summarize, plastics #2, #4 and #5 are generally considered safe. Plastic #1 is safe too but should not be re-used due to the risk of growing bacteria. Any other plastic should be used with extreme caution, especially around food or drink. The risk is even greater when heating food. For microwaving in particular, remember that microwave safe containers aren’t necessarily healthy. They just won’t melt. In general, it’s better to avoid microwaving plastic entirely and stick to glass.

Bleach might be worse for you in the bath than untreated water.

Nice details, Almot, thanks!

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Isn't the number within a triangle some sort of carcinogen index?

No, that's a recycling code. All stuff with the same number goes in the same bin.

greenrvgreen wrote:
suggestion of a tank on a little trailer is really good, as long as you're not moving your camp around.

He is moving around.
Semi-permanent location , as I understand. RV hooked up to rented house, to use electricity.

Mex - no, the number in triangle is not a carcinogen index. It's a chemical composition. Higher or lower index doesn't mean it's safer. Index 7 is the worst, it means it contains BPA.

Materials that don't contain BPA are still leaching estrogen chemicals, but like Naio said, it may take a long time to kill you.

Disposable water bottles with index 1 are BPA-free but still not as good as those with index 2,4,5.

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