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Jul 04, 2014

Torque Pro Question - Trans Fluid Temp Calculation Methods

Not sure if this is the proper place to ask this, but here goes. I'm new to the Torque Pro app. Just downloaded it to monitor performance of my 2004 6.8L Ford V-10 (2-vlv) installed on a 37? Forest River Georgetown. I will start using it on my next trip. I’m particularly interested to monitor Transmission Fluid Temp. In the Ford specific Custom PIDs available in the app there are two tranny temp PIDs with different calculation methods shown, Transmission Fluid Temp (Method 1)” and Transmission Fluid Temp (Method 2)”. Can anyone please explain the differences between them and if one is more appropriate than the other for my application. My normal on the road travel weight for the RV is slightly over 20,000 pounds plus pulling a 3300 lb. toad, and I’m trying to make sure I have real time transmission fluid temp data during long or steep climbs. Thanks.
  • Measure both on your Torque Pro application. Also measure your coolant temperature off the head. All of these are important. You should find out what model transmission you have also... is it a C6, or something different? Take it to a transmission shop and have your ATF changed, and ask them what temp the max operating fluid should be kept at.

    You can also set alarms on your Torque Pro App for maximum temperatures, and then the gauge starts blinking, although I'd prefer an audible sound instead for a gauge whose temp is running too hot.

    If it sounded off, look down and see which gauge is blinking.
  • My problem is that I don't have a way right now to read transmission fluid temp at all, but this TorquePro app will allow me to. It's just that I have to chose the correct Custom PID and I'm not sure which it is. Once done, I can read this output, plus many other engine performance parameters in the form of gauges on my android phone mounted on the dashboard as an auxiliary instrument panel in addition to the standard Ford gauges.
  • Hi,

    It is a long question to ask "What should my maximum fluid temp be?"

    I read a poster on a wall in a transmission shop. IT basically stated that 300F trans fluid was good for something like 100 miles, or maybe it said 10 miles. 275 for 100 miles, and 250 for something like 5,000 miles between changes. 230F fluid is good for a somewhat normal 15,000 mile service life.

    I prefer to keep my transmission fluid below 210F most of the time, with short duration of 230F while climbing a mountain. If it gets close to 230F, I would slow down, rather than overheat the transmission.

    My 97 Ford F-53 chassis and 30' motorhome never went over about 200 on level ground, and up to about 225 F on a long mountain grade at 45 MPH in 2 gear (of 4). I have a 460" engine, old school compared to your V10 that can rev up much higher with much smaller pistons and shorter stroke that can rev up to 4,000 - 4,500 with ease.

    I also tow a 4,000 pound car. My 30' RV is only about 16,500 pounds, so I am a bit lighter than yours. However my 460" engine is only rated at 225 HP at 3,600 RPM, much less than the 362 HP that your engine is rated at.

    If your transmission is running over 210F on level ground, then I suggest a larger transmission cooler. However you do want (or need) to keep the transmission fluid over about 180F - even in winter. Moisture in the transmission fluid is driven out by running at 200F - it will boil all that water away. Keeping the fluid below 150F - such as short runs to work in the winter time, and moisture will not boil away, and can be bad.

    Fred.

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