Unicorns, Bigfoot, Nessie And Now T H I S...

Energy and pollution is a vicious circle. No free lunches. LNG also has its short comings. Leaking natural gas wells. I suggest birth control as the best possible solution to pollution. Flack jacket on.

Richard

LNG powered? Think solar powered. Transmission losses are minimal with distributed solar.

Thermal BTU? Need closer to 25,000 kWh to go 100,000 miles. An array of 15 kW (DC) panels should produce this much power each year in a sunny area.

The trick is getting to critical mass where the solar power produces enough to self replicate. That is to say when solar power is used to create both the panels and batteries used in the production of more energy.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Using a unimaginable amount of energy to source raw material to build batteries and associated structure to power a motor vehicle compounded by transmission losses just does not pencil out. How many thermal BTUs to create 100,000 miles of transport? As clean as smokestacks seem they are laden with pollutants. If this is The New Physics I want out. The solitary single only way to compete with hydrocarbon transportation is mass transit. LNG powered. You have no idea how much energy it takes to manufacture a battery. Batteries needed for locomotion are mind boggling energy consumers. Imcorporate a battery into locomotive usage and the efficiency game is lost.

Holy carp. I had no idea anyone was even looking at batteries in locomotives. I know electric city busses are becoming the norm and obviously cars but locomotives. Wow. Which manufacturer.

Using a unimaginable amount of energy to source raw material to build batteries and associated structure to power a motor vehicle compounded by transmission losses just does not pencil out. How many thermal BTUs to create 100,000 miles of transport? As clean as smokestacks seem they are laden with pollutants. If this is The New Physics I want out. The solitary single only way to compete with hydrocarbon transportation is mass transit. LNG powered. You have no idea how much energy it takes to manufacture a battery. Batteries needed for locomotion are mind boggling energy consumers. Imcorporate a battery into locomotive usage and the efficiency game is lost.

Hi Mex. Hows it going down there. I saw some info on this a few months back. Looks interesting. I don't think the challenge is the grid as many modern countries are not having a problem dealing with the electrification of transportation. I think some of the challenges will be the connectors from the charge stations that need to deal with that kind of current. Right now the new Chademo station hardware is being sized to deal with 300 KW connectors and they are BIG and look heavy. All the new Chademo stations going in between LA and Vegas will have the hardware although the CHademo chargers themselves (gen 2) will be less than 1/2 of that. The existing Chademo staions are only 50KW and they have some heft to them. There has been some talk of liquid cooled connecters for all the Electric busses as they are 350 KW charge speeds. Times are a changin my friend. The grid will adapt. We are seeing the number of DC fast charge stations doubling in the next two years in our province. Once starbucks figures out they can sell drivers 3 dollar coffees while they are waiting for their vehicles to charge I'm sure there will be a DCFC at every Starbucks. :) Sadly this works on us as we tend to go to fast chargers that are close to Starbucks. sigh....how sad is that.

Que te vayas bien amigo.

John

But I just saw it on the internet.