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ve7prt
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May 14, 2013

Unusual Incident With Honda EU2000 Eco Throttle

Hey All,

So we're camping at Rathtrevor Provincial Park this past weekend and Saturday afternoon I notice on the XBM that the battery bank is getting down, and should be given a boosting charge. So, at 6pm I fire up Lil Red, hook up the trailer, and energize the charger (PD9280) in BOOST mode. I also switch the fridge over to the shorepower and kill the inverter. Generator is happily spewing out 110VAC to the trailer, running at around 50% RPM.

A few minutes later, the unit starts revving up and down. I had heard the fridge kick in (made the genny really work hard for a moment), but the main load is the charger. Looking at the XBM I see the current flow into the battery bank matching the genny's RPM's. RPM's go up and current flow increases. RPM's go down, current flow decreases. Average current at this point is around 65Amps. That's a little low.:?

So, I go flip off the Eco Throttle. Lil Red quickly spins up to full RPM. A further check of the XBM shows the current flow now at 78Amps.

I turn the Eco back on, genny slows to 50%, give or take. Couple minutes later, she starts revving up and down again. :h:h Charge current again follows the RPMs. I tried a space heater on LOW to give a constant load, thinking the charger may have been having an issue, but that added load was a bit much for the genset (didn't pop the breaker, but I could tell from the sound she wasn't happy).:E

I ended up the running Lil Red the entire hour with the Eco Throttle turned off. Made for a somewhat noisy hour. I've never seen this behaviour before in this unit; she's always purred along at a constant RPM with the charger working.

The only change I am aware of is I plugged into the right side outlet rather than the left side outlet. When I had the truck at the dealer in the morning, they washed the truck with the genset still in the back. So I'm wondering if either using the right side outlet caused the ET system to have issues tracking the load or if water got somewhere it shouldn't have.:S

Also wondering if anyone else has seen this issue.

Cheers!
Mike
  • UPDATE!!!!!

    So, I used Lil Red On Sunday (June 09th) as the power supply for my portable radio station. I was Net Control for the 2013 Edge-To-Edge Marathon held that day (race goes from Tofino to Ucluelet). The total load on the genny was 2 laptop power bricks, 1 LCD monitor, 1 MobiCool (powered cooler) power brick, and 1 intelligent 30Amp battery charger. Lil Red ran from just after 0700hrs to about 1530hrs without refueling (I had fueled her up prior to departing for my station's location). I had no issues at all with the Eco-Throttle - Lil Red held a constant RPM the whole day.

    So, I don't know what the issue was originally with Lil Red constantly changing RPMs on the Eco-Throttle, but whatever it was, it appears to have cleared itself. I still think it was water getting somewhere it shouldn't be.

    Cheers to all!!
    Mike
  • A 2000w genny should put out over 16a

    A 80a converter is only using about 10a AC
  • renoman69 wrote:
    Was this a 2000i genny? Some on here will tell you it will never run a 75amp+ converter but we know they are wrong.


    Yes, it's a eu2000i. I've been told the 2000 can't handle a PD9280 (which is what I have in the trailer), but it not only handles it, it can also take on the fridge, and it's massive starting loads. And once the fridge settles down, there's still room on the genny for more load. And that's with the PD9280 pumping out its full 80Amps.

    Cheers!
    Mike
  • Depends on the power factor of the converter. Some draw a lot more watts than others.

    Jim
  • Was this a 2000i genny? Some on here will tell you it will never run a 75amp+ converter but we know they are wrong.
  • donn0128 wrote:
    That is the problem with eco mode on generators. My Yamaha will do that too at times. Be sure to either run it at full power or turn off everything except the battery charger.

    Funny thing is, this the first time Lil Red did this. Usually, she just purrs along powering the trailer. I also have the fridge on the shorepower so that the inverter isn't taking up power that could potentially be used to charge the battery.

    I'm thinking the unit got soaked when the dealer washed the truck, and water got somewhere it shouldn't have. Maybe a couple good runs will clean it out.

    Cheers!
    Mike
  • My unit does the same thing every now and then. It doesn't seem to matter what is plugged in at the time. High load or low load, it still misbehaves. Yet, if I shut it down and give it a coffee break, away she goes normally. Sometimes it may require a couple of breaks, but eventually it settles down again. I always mean to call the repair place and ask them, but never remember until the next time it happens.
  • The PDI must have gone into a deslufate mode and was hitting the battery with spikes. This in turn varies the draw from the Honda so of course the throttle goes nuts.
    My portable charger does the same thing and I just turn off the eco rather than cause any undo wear to the genny.
  • That is the problem with eco mode on generators. My Yamaha will do that too at times. Be sure to either run it at full power or turn off everything except the battery charger.

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