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SCVJeff
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Dec 09, 2016

What has Trojan done ?

Just printed the T-145 data sheet from the company website to verify my Magnum charge params and noticed a little change..

From my .pdf published in 2015:
Bulk: 13.8
Float: 13.2
Eq: 15.5

And today..
This is straight from the Trojan website:
Bulk: 14.82
Float: 13.5
Eq: 16.2 !

That's a +1.2V difference on Bulk, and +.7v boost on Eq ! I can't get there on the Magnum even if I wanted to.

This HAS to be a misprint (right?). But why did they edit a document already published?

Where's Mex ?

67 Replies

  • SCVJeff wrote:
    Nobody's advocating new batteries, but these are major changes to a battery spec. that as Mex points out, who's chemistry hasn't changed.

    If you don't mind my asking? How do you know the chemistry has not changed?
  • Nobody's advocating new batteries, but these are major changes to a battery spec. that as Mex points out, who's chemistry hasn't changed.
  • OMG this is terrifying. I thought Trojan wanted 14-4-14.8 all along. What to do. I need to buy all new batteries now?
  • Rolls and Surrette has a fine PDF manual to download. It applies to Trojan 101% and the Space Cadet academy in Corona and to LTH and Johnson Controls 5% antimony batteries. Deviate from that charging protocol at your battery's risk. Try reconciling a correct charging protocol with "smart" converter's profiles.

    The idiot who proclaimed bulk charging as being a stage hoped and prayed it would be taken as a charger controlled event. Two stage, three stage, twenty ninth stage. A charger takes x time to arrive at voltage limit. Factor 2 is how much time is spent at voltage limit before defaulting to float. I am one of the few who achieve instantaneous voltage limit because my chargers have capacity to do so.

    It charges
    Then hums
    Then sepentines up and down
    Then zots a higher voltage
    Then sends Morse Code to the battery plates
    Then falls to float
    Meanwhile back at the ranch
    The battery didn't get charged
    No matter
    The user fell into a catatonic stupor induced by stobing LEDs.
    The newest battery charger Armani Italian Suit
    And they cannot get enough of it
    Salesmen don't like me for some reason
  • BUlk voltage is a screwy term, as during bulk, voltage eventually rises to absorption voltage. Technically bulk should end at absorption voltage.

    IMO, 'bulk' should refer to initial amps applied to depleted battery

    Trojan has been saying 14.8 absorption for a long time no?

    I thought the 16.2 from 15.5 rise and 13.2 float to 13.5 was a more recent change.

    I remember seeing rolls surrette user manual saying 16.2 fo EQ, and then seeing that trojan bumped their EQ voltage to this too, within the last 14 months or so.
  • Suit tours the returns dock
    Suit goes inside
    Suit screams
    Senior engineers light fires under junior engineers
    Batteries dissected
    Fun and games changes to 60 year old charging specs get scrapped
    Heads roll
    Cannot Herb Tarlek battery electro-chemical reality
    This is reason, what (?)
    Why I did not go corporate
    And end up on death row.

    I plead. I beg. Paisley shirts and fluoresent ties try for a new reality

    And I am stuck with rote chemistry. My figures haven't changed in what - 10 years on this forum and 35 years overall. Chemistry like electricity is a discipline not a Madison Avenue playtoy.
  • just a guess, to many early deaths from consumer use
    they finally published the real specs needed to keep them healthy
    commercial users, using timed heavy duty chargers, not consumer 'smart' chargers
    have been using the higher voltages for years

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