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way2roll wrote:

Reisender wrote:


Possibly poorly worded on my part. The number one selling car in the world is the tesla model Y.

“For the first time, an electric vehicle – the Tesla Model Y – became the world's best-selling car, at least for the first quarter of 2023, topping the Toyota Corolla and Toyota RAV4, according to data from JATO Dynamics published by Motor1.”


I’m not aware of anywhere that forces you to buy an EV but I’m not an American. Maybe you have different rules there. Here you can buy whatever car or truck you want. Where do you live that you are being forced to buy an EV tow vehicle?

Facts are slippery things and it requires you to do a little due diligence rather than take the word of someone with a vested interest.

Autoweek article - Is Tesla Model Y The World’s Best-Selling Car? Nope, Not Even Close.

And I am not sure why you can't grasp the financial impact to people who do not want to buy EV's. When the government mandates and pumps Billions into auto makers to force them to produce EV's, or when infrastructure has to be updated to support EV's, Or landfills have to update their practices, the list goes on and on - who do you think pays for that? Every single American who files taxes despite 93% of them NOT buying an EV - that's who.

Yah. No. Toyota is playing with the numbers and including a variety of models and body styles that loosely fall under Corolla umbrella. No publication agrees with that article and it was generally considered busted.

If people don’t want to buy an EV they shouldn’t. Lots of choices out there. That simple.

Auto manufacturers are putting billions into EV development because people want them. Any manufacturer that doesn’t is gone within two decades. Stellantis CEO has come right out and said it can’t be done and cars would have to start at 70,000 for them to make money. Meanwhile tesla sells them at 37000 ish dollars and has healthy margins. And the upcoming model 2 will be in the mid twenties.

Infrastructure is ongoing anywhere and changes with technology. Most countries are not having problems adapting their infrastructure.

I didn’t understand the reference to landfills. Cars here are generally recycled. And the batteries definitely are as they are super valuable.

Sorry I’m not up on American EV adaption rate or infrastructure challenges so can’t really comment on that.

We are about to hit the road on a little camping trip so I’ll check in next week. Enjoyed the civil discussion. I think some of our point of view differences are just living in different countries.

Safe travels way2roll.