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FishOnOne
Jul 09, 2023Nomad
ksss wrote:4x4ord wrote:ksss wrote:
The fact that under load the Duramax was faster 0-60 than the PS. I actually expected the DMax to be faster empty. It clearly was not. I guess one can assume that the PS is managed under load and less so running empty. The DMax must have less management all the way around, but left to the numbers, the PS's additional HP, left unmanaged, is more than the DMax can match.
From a GM perspective, if your coming in statistically that much lower than the PS, you better turn it loose to compete. If your looking for a reason to find this interesting, this video shows that driving either one of these pickups as a daily, it will perform empty very much like a high hp gas 1500/150, the PS even more so.
What exactly are you thinking torque management is? I doubt very much that the Ford's poor performance on the hill has anything to do with torque management. That said, I have no idea why it performed so poorly. I know that my '21 Powerstroke got better fuel economy than my '22 Powerstroke does... both trucks were spec'ed identical. My brother's '22 (spec'd identical to my '22) gets similar mileage to what my '21 got. Maybe there are slight differences that make one engine more efficient or more powerful than another?
I think torque management is the pickup depowering itself to stop from damaging itself. It could be just differences in pickups. I don't know obviously what the exact cause is, it just seems when these trucks now know when their overloaded that it would be easy to manage the torque depending on the weight they are pulling. With the power that the Ford has, maybe they try to protect the pickup when pulling that much weight from aggressive starts. With the pickup unloaded, they allow it to run more aggressively. The Ford pickup in the drag race decisively was faster than the DMax, seems more than just a difference in one pickup to another. GM was infamous for a while for "dead pedal", a form of torque management. That went away when the trucks were able to tow more weight. Perhaps Ford is doing something similar. Going up the IKE, the Ford should have owned that run, and while it was the fastest, it should have been much faster as you pointed out. As I stated before, given how warm the Ford got, I am left to believe they manage the power when pulling heavy.
For some reason the Ford stayed in 6th gear for a while and then it finally shifted to 7th gear and then gained some speed. Not sure why, but this is what it did. Although my truck is a'12, it sometimes does a late shift as well. Having said that we now know the 2020 Power Stroke was way underrated and I suspect the 2024 Duramax is underrated as well.
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