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tluxon
Jun 07, 2005Explorer
Milt, in your first image you made the statement,
The case presented in your second illustration is not clear to me, but if "there is no place for the force to go" for a force applied to A or B, how can there be a lateral load at C if there is no impetus for movement? Are you fixing point C or any of the lengths AD, DC, BE, or EC? Fixing either the points or the segment lengths is redundant and simply results in a truss structure.
In your third illustration you try to convert your truss structure to a Hensley analogy, but it doesn't work that way. First you say
You also said
When you say
Point C as you describe doesn't ever exist on a Hensley application nor is it useful for any purpose.
Tim
Stressor wrote:This is not correct. Since you can't move C without trying to shorten or lengthen segment AC, there is also a vertical component to the load at C.
Hooking a come along to between point B and a Willow tree would result only in a lateral load being applied at point C.
The case presented in your second illustration is not clear to me, but if "there is no place for the force to go" for a force applied to A or B, how can there be a lateral load at C if there is no impetus for movement? Are you fixing point C or any of the lengths AD, DC, BE, or EC? Fixing either the points or the segment lengths is redundant and simply results in a truss structure.
In your third illustration you try to convert your truss structure to a Hensley analogy, but it doesn't work that way. First you say
Stressor wrote:Since there is no physical point C, what exactly can possibly constrain those segments to be equal?
distance C-E and C-D must remain the same
You also said
Stressor wrote:This is incorrect. Up to date in this thread, the Virtual Pivot Point has always been described as the imaginary point at which segments AD and BE would intersect if they were extended to their point of intersection. In theory, this is also termed the Instantaneous Center of Rotation. Instantaneous because no two angles between AD and BE ever intersect at the same point.
C is what has been called the Virtual Pivot Point
When you say
Stressor wrote:it is incongruent since making segments DE and AB fixed lengths has nothing to do with enabling the omission of fixed-length segments to a point C.
In the Hensley, we do not actually extend the legs to point C, because we hold distance D-E and A-B constant
Point C as you describe doesn't ever exist on a Hensley application nor is it useful for any purpose.
Tim
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