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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Raise your hands and feet and admit it that some just 25 years ago you and other naysayers said,100% battery or electric car is impossible?

Aaaaaaa news flash. Electric car WERE the first cars! They beat ICE cars by many years. Back then, like now, energy density is a problem. YS, sounds like you need a history lesson in cars. The history of electric cars.

"Why do you think solar panels achieved 25% efficiency In so short a time? No research and R&D? That it just fell from the sky like manna from heaven or gift from the gods?"

I guess it depends on what you call "so short a time". After all solar cells have been around for almost 70 years.

valhalla360 wrote:


For the other items, the math works. For every exception, the naysayers are right 99 times.

Of course jenius!:W Even the real genius, Allbert Einstein said "I have tried 99 times and have failed, but on the 100th time came success."

Why do you think solar panels achieved 25% efficiency In so short a time? No research and R&D? That it just fell from the sky like manna from heaven or gift from the gods?

Where do you think the breakthrough in science, discovery and technology came from? Dreamers with brains and boldness, of course. Not from the naysayers and defeatists saying, it can't be done, it is hard, can I just take a nap?

Raise your hands and feet and admit it that some just 25 years ago you and other naysayers said,100% battery or electric car is impossible?

valhalla360 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Ain't you glad JFK did not get these people in his moon shot project?

But Mr President, math is hard and you want us to do rocket science.

I remember that skeptics and the naysayers about the mobile phone, mini computers, battery powered cars and solar homes.

Ok, they are still around shooting down every high tech concepts out there riding into the sunset in their horse drawn wagons.:o

Differences...You think someone didn't run some numbers before JFK went before the microphone. At the time rocket technology was advancing by leaps and bounds...and they were willing to accept people dying to say they were first.

For the other items, the math works. For every exception, the naysayers are right 99 times.

Solar panels and batteries are not new technology and they have been trying for decades (first electric car was in the late 1800's). So again what earth shattering advance has been made that's ready to come to market now?

I'm still waiting for Moller's M400 flying car.. i wish he would hurry up because I have been waiting since the 80's.

I have also been waiting for Ford's Nucleon. Man, then I would have to fill up only once in my lifetime. No waiting at the pump you know!

BTW I'm still waiting for a new battery that crapped out in my electric car. They said another 3 months wait and it's already been 3 months. So a half a year without my car. Nice hu?

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Ain't you glad JFK did not get these people in his moon shot project?

But Mr President, math is hard and you want us to do rocket science.

I remember that skeptics and the naysayers about the mobile phone, mini computers, battery powered cars and solar homes.

Ok, they are still around shooting down every high tech concepts out there riding into the sunset in their horse drawn wagons.:o

Differences...You think someone didn't run some numbers before JFK went before the microphone. At the time rocket technology was advancing by leaps and bounds...and they were willing to accept people dying to say they were first.

For the other items, the math works. For every exception, the naysayers are right 99 times.

Solar panels and batteries are not new technology and they have been trying for decades (first electric car was in the late 1800's). So again what earth shattering advance has been made that's ready to come to market now?

Sjm9911 wrote:
I am not reading this whole thing, and the politics. But a guy at work ordered one of these. Supost to get it last summer, then in october, then January and still nada. So hes been waiting over a year, with 3 delivery dates come and gone. As for towing, its not there yet for me, but if its for you go for it. You just may need another TV before this one gets delivered.

Thank you for deflating the dreamers just a tad and bringing them back a little closer to reality….hopefully.

I am not reading this whole thing, and the politics. But a guy at work ordered one of these. Supost to get it last summer, then in october, then January and still nada. So hes been waiting over a year, with 3 delivery dates come and gone. As for towing, its not there yet for me, but if its for you go for it. You just may need another TV before this one gets delivered.

I understand, it takes effort to back up one’s statements of “facts”; it does provide an opportunity for others to learn something (those who want to make that effort). But it’s so much easier to just make comments as above.

BCSnob wrote:
Since I have been kind enough to provide 100s of links to Covid research you should be kind enough to provide a link to the study you’re presenting (you brought it up, support your claim. How else can we know it’s not vaporware).

FYI google scholar is a better search engine for peer reviewed research

Uhh, what does this have to do with Covid research? And who cares...
Piddly argument here..."Prove it!" "No you prove it"...LOL

Since I have been kind enough to provide 100s of links to Covid research you should be kind enough to provide a link to the study you’re presenting (you brought it up, support your claim. How else can we know it’s not vaporware).

FYI google scholar is a better search engine for peer reviewed research