Towing capacity

philh wrote:

bikendan wrote:

Desert Captain wrote:
"one correction, 300 lbs of passengers are already accounted for in the payload capacity. Also some amount of hitch wt, maybe 100 lbs(?) is also accounted for."

I don't think so... Payload usually does not include multiple passengers, just a 150# driver and half a tank of gas and does not address the WDH/weight.

We do agree the OP has way more trailer than truck...

:C

Towing Capacity usually includes a 150lb driver and full fuel tank.
Payload Capacity only includes the full fuel tank. The driver is considered as an Occupant and not factored into the Payload Capacity.

Dan and Captain,
SAE J2807 specifies 150 lb driver and 150 lb driver along with 100lbs of hitch equipment. All the OEM's have signed up to follow the standard.

“Tow Vehicle Total Weight” (TVTW) for testing for ¾- and 1-ton trucks allocates 150 pounds for the driver, 150 pounds for a passenger, the weight of all tow package equipment, and 100 pounds of optional equipment (hitch ball, weight distribution bars, and such) split evenly between the front and rear axles.

Motor Trend summary article on J2807 Cliky link

Phil
J2807 is the TESTING standard. It doesnt change how payload is calculated. J2807 TESTING, which all manufacturers have signed up to, merely establish the test conditions under which the vehicle must be able to pass a test in order to establish the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight (GCVW), which is the combined weight of trailer and tow vehicle. It is simply a standard test methodology to establish GCVW, nothing more.

It did not/does not change how payload is calculated. Look at your yellow sticker. It says combined weight of ALL passengers and cargo must not exceed xxxx lbs. It does not say all passengers except one that weighs 150 lbs must not exceed.

We all know towing a flat bed trailer with weight is far different than a RV and with an RV, one will likely exceed payload way before reaching their GCVW.

Mike