Used tow vehicles

the bear II wrote:
The prices of new trucks is driving the used truck prices higher.

$40,000 to $80,000 for a new truck depending on how it is equipped and tow capability.

That's exactly why there's tons of them sitting on dealers lots not moving, long before the virus came along.

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

But $80,000?!!!!!! I paid less for my first house in '88.

My 01 was probably around $30k. And it might have had rear drums (I don't remember). Cheaper leather. No heated steering wheel. No bluetooth audio. No cameras, lane assist, crash mitigation. Half the HP and TQ. 4 speed transmission. The list goes on. You're getting a MUCH better total package than an 01. And yes, I'll pay $80k for that.

Heated what? Lane what? Cameras for ????? Leather ? For what? Maybe my recliner. Bluetooth? I want my teeth WHITE.
The house I bought in '88 is now worth $500,000. It's in SoCal.
The 2001 CTD had rear discs. I remember that much. You can pump those 5.9's up to over 800 ponies and 1500 ftlbs of torque.

https://www.drivingline.com/articles/threshold-for-pain-cummins-edition/

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I have no desire to go back to a spartan, loud, rough riding, underpowered (by todays standards)truck.

Bionic Man wrote:

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

But $80,000?!!!!!! I paid less for my first house in '88.

My 01 was probably around $30k. And it might have had rear drums (I don't remember). Cheaper leather. No heated steering wheel. No bluetooth audio. No cameras, lane assist, crash mitigation. Half the HP and TQ. 4 speed transmission. The list goes on. You're getting a MUCH better total package than an 01. And yes, I'll pay $80k for that.

Heated what? Lane what? Cameras for ????? Leather ? For what? Maybe my recliner. Bluetooth? I want my teeth WHITE.
The house I bought in '88 is now worth $500,000. It's in SoCal.
The 2001 CTD had rear discs. I remember that much. You can pump those 5.9's up to over 800 ponies and 1500 ftlbs of torque.

https://www.drivingline.com/articles/threshold-for-pain-cummins-edition/

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

But $80,000?!!!!!! I paid less for my first house in '88.

My 01 was probably around $30k. And it might have had rear drums (I don't remember). Cheaper leather. No heated steering wheel. No bluetooth audio. No cameras, lane assist, crash mitigation. Half the HP and TQ. 4 speed transmission. The list goes on. You're getting a MUCH better total package than an 01. And yes, I'll pay $80k for that.

Adjusting for inflation, $80,000 in 1988 is equivalent to $175,000 today. As the cost to make/sell goods increases, the amount that a dollar can buy decreases which means you will need more of it to buy the same exact things years later.

Bionic Man wrote:
My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

But $80,000?!!!!!! I paid less for my first house in '88.

My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

FishOnOne wrote:

blofgren wrote:
OP, there is a very good reason why 7.3L trucks have such high value; it is still the best diesel engine that Ford ever put into a truck. I looked long and hard for a cherry crew cab 4x4 DRW Lariat 7.3L prior to buying my current truck, but struck out. :(

You can also add the 5.9 cummins was the best engine Dodge Ram put into a truck as well.

I bought a new 2001 CTD in 2001. It was used in construction from day one. I drove that truck for over 300,000 miles. I added 100 hp to it along the way. Deleted everything related to smog. Chipped it. Added the air intake ****. I LOVED that truck. But, being in California, there eventually was a code that couldn't be cleared so it couldn't be smogged. I tried everything and anyone to get that code cleared. When this F350 popped up, I couldn't say no. The worse thing about the F350 is the driver seat. It is not centered to the steering wheel. I have two buddies with the same model,a 2001 and 1999. They both have the same seat position problem. That seat should be 2" wider. There's plenty of room for it.
Besides that, this truck (2000 F350 7.3 diesel) is fine. Not as much umph as the Dodge, but, at 64 years old, I don't care any longer. Yeah, I could chip it, but why? This truck will last me until I can no longer drive, then maybe I'll give it to one of my grandsons. It might have 250,000 miles on it in 10 years.

ACZL wrote:

agesilaus wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
A 2.5 gal bottle lasts me 3000 miles or so and costs $7. That's 4.3 cents a mile. Doesn't exactly break the bank

Going 3,000 miles on something that cost you $7 would have a cost per mile of $.00233(as in less than a quarter of a penny).

You're right I was calculating miles per penny

Must be an accountant....."Figure's don't lie, but liars can figure" LOL. Former member of old RV club we belonged to told this. Ironically he was a retired CPA.

Not an accountant, but ROI, COGS, pricing analytics are a part of my job as a product line manager.

agesilaus wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

agesilaus wrote:
A 2.5 gal bottle lasts me 3000 miles or so and costs $7. That's 4.3 cents a mile. Doesn't exactly break the bank

Going 3,000 miles on something that cost you $7 would have a cost per mile of $.00233(as in less than a quarter of a penny).

You're right I was calculating miles per penny

Must be an accountant....."Figure's don't lie, but liars can figure" LOL. Former member of old RV club we belonged to told this. Ironically he was a retired CPA.