Used tow vehicles

The boss said I can have a new truck. I am one of the guys looking at a $78k truck. I want to trade my stock 2008 Chevy 2500 for for a 2020 Chevy 3500 DRW. My truck is 2WD so that may hurt me. But I have only 60K miles on it and have no rust. It looks like I may have to wait until they start building trucks again if I can't find what I want on the dealer lot.

Price a good '02/'03 7.3L Excursion with reasonable miles (if you can find one!!) and see what they are selling for!!!!

agesilaus wrote:
A 2.5 gal bottle lasts me 3000 miles or so and costs $7. That's 4.3 cents a mile. Doesn't exactly break the bank

X2. $7.88 for the big jug of Walmart DEF. I use 3 or 4 jugs a year

Love hearing the guys who don’t understand inflation and technology complaining about the cost of stuff......

Coupled with the common attitude that a lot of people have that somehow makes it a “right” to have a new/big/expensive vehicle.
Just because they offer it, doesn’t mean you earn enough or have earned the “right” to one.

Sorry, if your career involves regular use of a mop and broom or a headset saying “would you like fries with that?” then you don’t have the jam, mentally or economically to buy a new diesel. Maybe Bernie will get ya one though....lol.
Depends where your priorities are I guess.
If I liquidated a bunch of stuff, could go buy a new diesel truck every year for the next couple decades and burn the old one when I was done with it. But part of the reason I can do that is because I DONT do that.

FireGuard wrote:
The 7.3 was a great motor in its day, but you’re now looking at a nearly 20 year old truck and technology.
Compared to today’s trucks the 7.3 is pretty anemic.
I’m sure a new Ram 6.4 or Ford 7.3 gas with the 8 and 10 speed trans would leave the ole stock 7.3 in the dust.
Talking about prices, there is a dealer in the Sacramento area who has clean low mileage older diesel trucks and I’ve seen 7.3s as high as mid $30k.

Every mechanic that has ever looked at my 7.3 liter diesel, has told me the same thing. "Never sell it."

It the best vehicle I have ever owned. With a few bolt on parts it is making around 330 hp. Totally adequate for towing. My record mpg is 23.8 mpg. I paid $35k and it is worth aout $18k. I saw one recently listed for $35k which is what it cost new in 2002.

Different power strokes for different folks.

On the subject of older diesel engines. had a '86 GMC Sierra Classic 4wd, 4speed, 6.2 diesel. Was an awesome truck. Had it for 2 years. Def wasn't a powerhouse, but got 18 mpg's and made a great snowplow truck w/ a 8' Fisher plow. Think it was had for about 15 grand new.

The 7.3 was a great motor in its day, but you’re now looking at a nearly 20 year old truck and technology.
Compared to today’s trucks the 7.3 is pretty anemic.
I’m sure a new Ram 6.4 or Ford 7.3 gas with the 8 and 10 speed trans would leave the ole stock 7.3 in the dust.
Talking about prices, there is a dealer in the Sacramento area who has clean low mileage older diesel trucks and I’ve seen 7.3s as high as mid $30k.

Bionic Man wrote:

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

jdc1 wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
My first diesel was a 2001 CTD. Great truck for its time. I wouldn't trade it for the one I have now, and certainly not for the 2020's that are out. I am pretty sure just about any current Ford owner would tell you the same of the 7.3 vs the 6.7.

Don't get sucked into nostalgia. These are the "good ole days" when it comes to trucks.

But $80,000?!!!!!! I paid less for my first house in '88.

My 01 was probably around $30k. And it might have had rear drums (I don't remember). Cheaper leather. No heated steering wheel. No bluetooth audio. No cameras, lane assist, crash mitigation. Half the HP and TQ. 4 speed transmission. The list goes on. You're getting a MUCH better total package than an 01. And yes, I'll pay $80k for that.

Heated what? Lane what? Cameras for ????? Leather ? For what? Maybe my recliner. Bluetooth? I want my teeth WHITE.
The house I bought in '88 is now worth $500,000. It's in SoCal.
The 2001 CTD had rear discs. I remember that much. You can pump those 5.9's up to over 800 ponies and 1500 ftlbs of torque.

https://www.drivingline.com/articles/threshold-for-pain-cummins-edition/

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I have no desire to go back to a spartan, loud, rough riding, underpowered (by todays standards)truck.

I am with you loved our 2001 Ram 2500 Laramie, not a spartan truck for sure. I will say the 2016 Ram Laramie is way nicer, more powerful, and much quieter.

Bionic Man wrote:

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I have no desire to go back to a spartan, loud, rough riding, underpowered (by todays standards)truck.

I agree. Some people spend their money on trucks while others may choose to spend it on stuff like Motorcycles or RVs. What may seem like a waste of money to one person may be an ordinary purchase to another and vice versa. Not only that, but everyone's income is different or they are at a different stage in their life. What may seem like a lot of money to one person may not be to another.

To the person on the street, $20 is a lot of money. To the person in the apartment, $200 is a lot of of money. To the guy who owns a house, $2,000 is a lot of money. To the guy in the huge house, $20,000 is a lot of money. To the person in the mansion, $200,000 is a lot of money. It is all relative to the person.

bukhrn wrote:

the bear II wrote:
The prices of new trucks is driving the used truck prices higher.

$40,000 to $80,000 for a new truck depending on how it is equipped and tow capability.

That's exactly why there's tons of them sitting on dealers lots not moving, long before the virus came along.

I wonder how much profit those new trucks rake in for the automobile manufactures?