I took the time to get my rigged weighed today before we head to Yellowstone this week and could use a little help figuring out my tongue weight. The weighing process went pretty easy except for the 1st pass through, they took my weight before I could get back into the truck, so all weights I post are WITHOUT me in the drivers seat (210 lbs)Here is what my truck is rated forGAWR FRT 5200lbsGAWR REAR 6010lbsGVWR 9000lbsGCWR 20000lbs1st weigh truck and trailer with WD (without driver)STEER AXLE 4500lbsDRIVE AXLE 4720lbsTRAILER 8200lbsGCVW 17420lbs2nd weigh truck and trailer without WD or driverSTEER AXLE 3820lbsDRIVE AXLE 5740lbsTRAILER 7860lbsGCVW 17420lbs3rd weigh truck only without driverSTEER AXLE 4460lbsDRIVE AXLE 3680lbs1st thing I saw was the truck is 220lbs plus my 210lbs overweight. The truck is fully loaded for the trip with a full tank of fuel. There's maybe a 100lbs I could shed in the bed but not 430lbs. The camper is fully loaded except maybe 100lbs of food/clothesNow tongue weight, is that 1st weigh steer+drive weights minus #3 steer+drive = 1080lbs? or am I doing that wrong?Does anyone see any other potential risks or things to be concerned with? Btw, it was about a 45min drive on the highway to the scales, and I don't think its ever pulled better. Thanks for the help

YES you are over trucks GVWR BUTyou are under FAWR, under RAWR, under GCWROther than checking rear tire ratings IMHO you are good to goYes..tongue weight is difference between truck/trailer weights minus trucks weights.

It is the weights without the WDH9560-8140=1420 tongue weight. Trailer weighs 9280Tongue weight percentage is 15.3%Imho, if you feel comfortable with your setup, keep it as is.

All the talk about weights and me having some problems towing the first trip I got a WD hitch and took it to the scales empty today. I think I am a notch high on the hitch and have dropped it to the bottom.Here are my numbers:Salem T25 toy hauler behind a full size Ram 2500 Quad cab 6.5 bed. Trailer ratings GVWR 10588GAWR (each axle) 5080 Truck rating Total GVWR 8800Rear GVWR 6000 Truck weights-empty (measured) front 3600rear 3100total 6500 Truck and trailer (trailer dry measured). truck front-loaded 3200back truck loaded 4550RV Duals 6100 truck with trailer weights 7750truck without trailer weights 6500tongue weight 1250 What I noticed was that my steering axle actually got lighter (so not enough tension on the WD correct?)If I have a 1000 lb receiver I am also overloaded with a dry trailer correct?Will one more chain link correct this?Still does not pull worth a crap.Sorry for Hi-jacking this thread but seems like fits right in or feel free to move it.

Gravyd, those with more time on their hands than I, will analyze your numbers . However, what I find interesting is that you are over on the one number that I find most important, GVWR. I am not being critical but it does go to show us that even a 2500 is not unlimited when it comes to towing travel trailers. Thanks for posting the information and have a great trip to Yellowstone. Just don't haul any five hundred pound bears home, as you are already over on your payload.

A couple thing I left out, GVWR for the camper is 11000lbs, I have Timbrens on the truck, not that they help vehicle GVWR apparently, and the truck and camper both have E-rated tires (3165lbs each on the truck). I weighed everything I removed from the bed just now, and moved that into the camper (124lbs). What I don't understand is, why isn't vehicle GVWR the sum of adding the 2 axle ratings?

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Gravyd
Explorer
Jun 29, 2013
A couple thing I left out, GVWR for the camper is 11000lbs, I have Timbrens on the truck, not that they help vehicle GVWR apparently, and the truck and camper both have E-rated tires (3165lbs each on the truck). I weighed everything I removed from the bed just now, and moved that into the camper (124lbs). What I don't understand is, why isn't vehicle GVWR the sum of adding the 2 axle ratings?
TomG2
Explorer
Jun 29, 2013
Gravyd, those with more time on their hands than I, will analyze your numbers . However, what I find interesting is that you are over on the one number that I find most important, GVWR. I am not being critical but it does go to show us that even a 2500 is not unlimited when it comes to towing travel trailers. Thanks for posting the information and have a great trip to Yellowstone. Just don't haul any five hundred pound bears home, as you are already over on your payload.
minz
Explorer
Jun 29, 2013
All the talk about weights and me having some problems towing the first trip I got a WD hitch and took it to the scales empty today. I think I am a notch high on the hitch and have dropped it to the bottom.
Here are my numbers:
Salem T25 toy hauler behind a full size Ram 2500 Quad cab 6.5 bed.

Trailer ratings
GVWR 10588
GAWR (each axle) 5080

Truck rating
Total GVWR 8800
Rear GVWR 6000

Truck weights-empty (measured)
front 3600
rear 3100
total 6500

Truck and trailer (trailer dry measured).
truck front-loaded 3200
back truck loaded 4550
RV Duals 6100

truck with trailer weights 7750
truck without trailer weights 6500
tongue weight 1250

What I noticed was that my steering axle actually got lighter (so not enough tension on the WD correct?)
If I have a 1000 lb receiver I am also overloaded with a dry trailer correct?
Will one more chain link correct this?
Still does not pull worth a crap.
Sorry for Hi-jacking this thread but seems like fits right in or feel free to move it.
ChooChooMan74
Explorer
Jun 29, 2013
It is the weights without the WDH

9560-8140=1420 tongue weight.
Trailer weighs 9280
Tongue weight percentage is 15.3%

Imho, if you feel comfortable with your setup, keep it as is.
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Jun 29, 2013
YES you are over trucks GVWR BUT
you are under FAWR, under RAWR, under GCWR

Other than checking rear tire ratings IMHO you are good to go

Yes..tongue weight is difference between truck/trailer weights minus trucks weights.

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