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Apr 08, 2015

2002 Suburban K2500

I have a 2002 Suburban K2500 with the 8.1L engine. The muffler has developed a few holes in it. I temporarily patched it with a piece of sheet metal, pop rivets, and hi-temp RTV. The pipes seem in good shape.

Our local muffler shop chain says they don't list an aftermarket exhaust system for it, or even a muffler. He says the muffler should be similar to a 2500 pickup, so bring it in and they'll see what they can do.

Anyone replace a muffler and/or exhaust system on a sub like this?

I did find a post by BurbMan back in 2012 where he installed a Flo-pro muffler that sounded like the stock one (I don't want a louder muffler). If you are reading this BurbMan, how has the muffler worked out? We have bad winters here and I was hoping for a stainless muffler. I think the Flo-pro was not stainless.

Steve

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The muffler has developed a few holes in it. I temporarily patched it with a piece of sheet metal, pop rivets, and hi-temp RTV. The pipes seem in good shape.

Our local muffler shop chain says they don't list an aftermarket exhaust system for it, or even a muffler. He says the muffler should be similar to a 2500 pickup, so bring it in and they'll see what they can do.

Anyone replace a muffler and/or exhaust system on a sub like this?

I did find a post by BurbMan back in 2012 where he installed a Flo-pro muffler that sounded like the stock one (I don't want a louder muffler). If you are reading this BurbMan, how has the muffler worked out? We have bad winters here and I was hoping for a stainless muffler. I think the Flo-pro was not stainless.

Steve","body@stringLength":"858","rawBody":"I have a 2002 Suburban K2500 with the 8.1L engine. The muffler has developed a few holes in it. I temporarily patched it with a piece of sheet metal, pop rivets, and hi-temp RTV. The pipes seem in good shape.

Our local muffler shop chain says they don't list an aftermarket exhaust system for it, or even a muffler. He says the muffler should be similar to a 2500 pickup, so bring it in and they'll see what they can do.

Anyone replace a muffler and/or exhaust system on a sub like this?

I did find a post by BurbMan back in 2012 where he installed a Flo-pro muffler that sounded like the stock one (I don't want a louder muffler). If you are reading this BurbMan, how has the muffler worked out? We have bad winters here and I was hoping for a stainless muffler. I think the Flo-pro was not stainless.

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2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661935"},"body":"I'm a big fan of Magnaflow exhausts/components. #15716 is the cat back system replacement. 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Otherwise, you can measure the inlet diameter, outlet diameter, length and width of the OEM muffler and use Manaflow's muffler lookup to find a direct match. Any competent muffler shop can hack in nearly any muffler.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661935_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:243069":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:243069","uid":243069,"login":"captnjack","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-10-17T18:15:32.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:243069"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661934":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661934","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661934":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:243069"},"id":"message:1661934","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661934,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661934"},"body":"Thanks for the replies.

Just thought I should post my experience. I went to the high mileage synthetic oil burbman suggested. I also went up one grade in viscocity. I needed to add about 1/2 quart after just under 1000 miles. I'm fine with that. Looking back, it was probably low quality oil from my last change. I went to one of the express oil change joints. I don't know what they use or what their track record is as I have rarely used them. I'll do it myself with high mileage Mobil One from now on.

Funny part is I did 9000 miles towing last summer and burned 1/2 quart every 1300 miles. I was fine with that too. Then I had the oil change and was burning two quarts or more per 1000 miles. I thought I was in TV hell. And I don't have money for a new one.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-05-12T07:36:18.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-05-12T07:36:18.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":309},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1661921/message:1661934","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"785","rawBody":"Thanks for the replies.

Just thought I should post my experience. I went to the high mileage synthetic oil burbman suggested. I also went up one grade in viscocity. I needed to add about 1/2 quart after just under 1000 miles. I'm fine with that. Looking back, it was probably low quality oil from my last change. I went to one of the express oil change joints. I don't know what they use or what their track record is as I have rarely used them. I'll do it myself with high mileage Mobil One from now on.

Funny part is I did 9000 miles towing last summer and burned 1/2 quart every 1300 miles. I was fine with that too. Then I had the oil change and was burning two quarts or more per 1000 miles. I thought I was in TV hell. And I don't have money for a new one.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661934_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:345793":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:345793","uid":345793,"login":"BurbMan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-09-20T14:30:55.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:345793"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661933":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661933","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661933":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:345793"},"id":"message:1661933","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661933,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661933"},"body":"

subcamper wrote:
I talked to an engineer at the Tonawanda, NY plant that built the 8.1 engine. He said the oil consumption is due to the fact that it was designed to also run on natural gas. The rings had to be made of a harder material, which don't seal as well as softer rings.

FINALLY...the best explanation I have heard about this. I know when the 8.1 was new back in 01-02, the Internet was covered in complaints and warnings about \"piston slap\" because the engine is so noisy started cold. The noise coupled with the oil consumption had many yelling that \"the sky is falling\" and demanding that GM replace or repair their 8.1's.

I always wondered why GM didn't issue a TSB to the effect that these \"complaints\" are normal. All I know is I did a Blackstone report on the last oil change and this thing running like a top!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661933_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:237915":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:237915","uid":237915,"login":"BenK","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-18T11:36:55.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:237915"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661932":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661932","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661932":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:237915"},"id":"message:1661932","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661932,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661932"},"body":"Hi Steve !

Yes, the SS rings take longer to seat and more important on how it is seated than
other ICE's

It has to do with the metal movement from the hills and not cover
the valleys. To form plateau's as landings for the rings and the
valley's to hold oil that will be swept up by the rings to the plateau's

Key is to NOT shear the hill tops off, but to mush them flat...

Wondering if my 7.4L has SS rings? It does NOT consume engine oil...even now at
+164K miles of extremely hard driving as a 'car' and towing a +8.5K boat

Only consumes engine oil when the oil has been beat up and losing it's film
tension rating. That is when I know it is past time to change oil/filter...when
the dash oil gauge fluctuates and drops a bit in PSI

As for the muffler, I'm not looking too for my 7.4L and will check out the maker
you guys are looking at. Made a mistake taking out the OEM and replacing it with
a Magnaflow (2 in, 2 out but with a common chamber...therefore Cal SMOG says a
single).

Actually lost a bit off idle. Almost a stumble. Lost was the low end scavenging
High end is significantly better than OEM...but also lost was stealth via silence

A trick I've been using since the 70's was taught to me by old man Sanderson
when he taught me HOW2 make my own headers

Get a few bottles of aluminumize anti-seize and 'paint all the bare metal seams
and even galvanized portions

The heat will burn off the oil carrier and plate the metal with aluminum

The muffler shops that guarantee life time muffler make their money in replacing
the rotted out tubing...even aluminumized...the welded seam isn't plated with
anything and will rot from that to the rest of the tubing","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-09T08:11:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-09T08:11:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":310},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1661921/message:1661932","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1858","rawBody":"Hi Steve !

Yes, the SS rings take longer to seat and more important on how it is seated than
other ICE's

It has to do with the metal movement from the hills and not cover
the valleys. To form plateau's as landings for the rings and the
valley's to hold oil that will be swept up by the rings to the plateau's

Key is to NOT shear the hill tops off, but to mush them flat...

Wondering if my 7.4L has SS rings? It does NOT consume engine oil...even now at
+164K miles of extremely hard driving as a 'car' and towing a +8.5K boat

Only consumes engine oil when the oil has been beat up and losing it's film
tension rating. That is when I know it is past time to change oil/filter...when
the dash oil gauge fluctuates and drops a bit in PSI

As for the muffler, I'm not looking too for my 7.4L and will check out the maker
you guys are looking at. Made a mistake taking out the OEM and replacing it with
a Magnaflow (2 in, 2 out but with a common chamber...therefore Cal SMOG says a
single).

Actually lost a bit off idle. Almost a stumble. Lost was the low end scavenging
High end is significantly better than OEM...but also lost was stealth via silence

A trick I've been using since the 70's was taught to me by old man Sanderson
when he taught me HOW2 make my own headers

Get a few bottles of aluminumize anti-seize and 'paint all the bare metal seams
and even galvanized portions

The heat will burn off the oil carrier and plate the metal with aluminum

The muffler shops that guarantee life time muffler make their money in replacing
the rotted out tubing...even aluminumized...the welded seam isn't plated with
anything and will rot from that to the rest of the tubing","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661932_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661931":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661931","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661931":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:283668"},"id":"message:1661931","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661931,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661931"},"body":"

BurbMan wrote:
Mine used 1 quart every 3000 miles since it was brand new. Consumption is about half that since I changed to Mobil 1 Hi-Mileage a couple years ago. Guys that complained to their dealer were told that the official GM standard for oil consumption is more than 1 quart of oil to 100 gallons of gas....so at 12 mpg, it would need to use more than a quart every 1200 miles to be considered problematic.

FYI, it does have an oil level sensor in the pan, and you'll get a \"low oil level\" message if it's 2 qts low.

X2

My Suburban has 152K miles on it and, like BurbMan, has used about 1 quart per 3000-5000 miles since new. When I tow, it seems to burn a little more oil (1qt per 3000 miles)than when not towing (1qt per 5000 miles). I bought it with 5K miles on it and have been running Mobil 1 since I got it.

I talked to an engineer at the Tonawanda, NY plant that built the 8.1 engine. He said the oil consumption is due to the fact that it was designed to also run on natural gas. The rings had to be made of a harder material, which don't seal as well as softer rings.

I have to keep my 2002 Sub running, as there hasn't been an equivalent replacemnt since 2007(?) when they got rid of the 8.1L.
Now the new (2015+) subs don't even have a 3/4 ton version anymore. There are some rumors of a HD version coming out, but it still won't have a BB or Diesel.

Steve","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661931_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661930":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661930","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661930":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:345793"},"id":"message:1661930","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661930,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661930"},"body":"Mine used 1 quart every 3000 miles since it was brand new. Consumption is about half that since I changed to Mobil 1 Hi-Mileage a couple years ago. Guys that complained to their dealer were told that the official GM standard for oil consumption is more than 1 quart of oil to 100 gallons of gas....so at 12 mpg, it would need to use more than a quart every 1200 miles to be considered problematic.

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And Captnjack, not sure what you mean by (excess oil consumption), my 8.1 has used some oil since new (100k, now). I've read on the GM and truck forums about people who went to full synthetic oil and stopped or reduced the consumption. Apparently the 8.1 is vaporizing the dino oil, and most, if not all, do it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-08T20:37:40.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-08T20:37:40.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":309},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1661921/message:1661929","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"541","rawBody":"I've got an 2002 8.1 Sierra P/U. I put the quietest Flowmaster (Rustmaster) and it rumbles at low speeds, but surprisingly not towing at highway speed. But, it looks like a rusty piece of cr-p, hanging under the truck.

And Captnjack, not sure what you mean by (excess oil consumption), my 8.1 has used some oil since new (100k, now). I've read on the GM and truck forums about people who went to full synthetic oil and stopped or reduced the consumption. Apparently the 8.1 is vaporizing the dino oil, and most, if not all, do it.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661929_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661928":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661928","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661928":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:243069"},"id":"message:1661928","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661928,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661928"},"body":"Any of you guys with the 8.1 Burbs have issues with excess oil consumption? If so, what did you do about it?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"108","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-08T20:20:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-08T20:20:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":309},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1661921/message:1661928","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"108","rawBody":"Any of you guys with the 8.1 Burbs have issues with excess oil consumption? If so, what did you do about it?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1661928_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661927":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1661927","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1661927":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:283668"},"id":"message:1661927","revisionNum":1,"uid":1661927,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1661921"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1661921"},"subject":"Re: 2002 Suburban K2500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1661927"},"body":"Thanks for all the info and pictures.

I'll call the company and ask about the different mufflers.

I have a little while as my patch seems to be holding pretty well.

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I'll call the company and ask about the different mufflers.

I have a little while as my patch seems to be holding pretty well.

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I had a minute after lunch, so I snapped a quick pic of the muffler so you can see how it's holding up after almost exactly 3 years. Granted I'm in Louisville now, so the winters aren't as bad, and I haven't been out driving on the beach either:

Now about the pipes....it depends on which one you need. Most of the pipes are standard 3\" mandrel bent pipes, any exhaust shop should be able to make a pipe or two from the cat back. Now the front pipes are another story...

When I had the transmission changed, they had to drop the front pipes to get it out, and the right pipe broke. The pipe has a flange on it that bolts to the manifold and the flange cracked in 3 pieces. Apparently the dealer or local shop in NY must have had issues with it during some previous repair and make a half-arsed attempt to weld it, and never bothered to mention it...

Here's the pipe:

If you look at the flange that bolts to the manifold, you can see a groove running around the inside face. There is a gasket that sits in that groove and seals the pipe to the manifold. The problem with re-welding the flange back together is that the groove would then need to be re-machined, so it would cost more in labor to fix it than to replace it. The pipe/flange is only available as an assembly, and only available from GM. Cost me 5 days of waiting and $450 to get a new pipe delivered to the shop that was installing the transmission.

The good news....the FloPro has the inlets/outlets in the stock locations so you shouldn't need any pipe work to install the muffler, unless the pipes are bad for whatever reason. 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