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- 45RicochetExplorer
tsbelue wrote:
What warnings?
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This product may not work with the EGR cooler installed. It may need to be removed.
This product MUST be used in conjunction with custom tuning calibrations from Fleece Performance. Failure to install the correct calibrations can result in engine damage. - tsbelueExplorerI am using the Industrial injection kit works with a stock truck with all the emission stuff in place. You don't have to reprogram anything its all stock.
- tsbelueExplorerWhat warnings?
- Charlie_D_Explorer
Me Again wrote:
45Ricochet wrote:
There is a CP3 conversion?????? I wouldn't think so as the ECM expects certain PSI the CP3 can't deliver. Poor spray pattern on piston would almost certainly throw a CEL without a programing change.
I wouldn't worry to much OP. Keep fresh fuel and drain filter often.
The good side is GM has covered a portion of the repairs with truck out of warranty. I believe flyboy had this happen.
http://fleeceperformance.com/fuel-system/injection-pumps/2011-2015-lml-cp3-conversion-kit-with-cp3-pump.html
Chris
After clicking on the link and reading the warnings I don't think I would have one. - tsbelueExplorerI would hope GM would do the right thing for everybody but instead of waiting for the pump to fail I am doing the retro fit kit next weekend. That is I am installing the CP3 kit and then I don't have to be paranoid about when is it going to die on me. I travel with my family towing our camper and don't want to be on a road trip and have a major breakdown. I know things still happen but I am a maintenance technician for Toyota and if you do proper maintenance you see much less unplanned failure.
- p220sigmanExplorerBack to the original question...
My BIL had the pump go on his 2011 D-max at about 120K miles. I don't know what the actual repair cost was, but the fuel system from the pump forward was replaced. The good news was that GM stepped up and covered it. This was his business truck and had all GM recommended maintenance done. The other good news was that it ran perfectly following the work until he sold it a few months ago with about 250K miles on it. - pressure_welderExplorer
Grit dog wrote:
I'll agree with pressure welder on deletes being a financially sound decision in extreme cold ops.
First, you are your own warranty station anyway when your up in the oil sands, north slope, etc. Cost more to haul the truck somewhere and warranty a repair just to have it happen again next week then to fix it yourself.
I can attest that in the winter up north, with a fleet of 40-50 new diesel pickups all 3 brands, I had at least one or 2 a day with emissions related problems. After running thru the whole fleet the first one would cr ap out again!
I wish they were deleted but instead it created 3 full time jobs, day, night and relief shift just fixing epa mandated stuff.
This post sounds like many a chat my father inlaw and I have had during drinks!! Iam being kind of a guinea pig for the family at the moment, unfortunately our 1 tons require annual safety and now its being enforced that you MUST have emissions equip intact to pass the safety... no safety... no insurance. So I wasn't about to throw all my equipment back in and drive an emissions equipped 2015 GMC with no warrenty
This was part of my reason for switching to a ram product as they have a somewhat different emissions system than GM's so I am testing there product out to see how it holds up. (tough not driving a deleted truck) BUT so far I am impressed. I hate to say it because I am a GM man through and through but we weren't horribly impressed with GM's emissions system reliability. And reliability is worth its weight in gold in my opinion. - Grit_dogTrailblazerI'll agree with pressure welder on deletes being a financially sound decision in extreme cold ops.
First, you are your own warranty station anyway when your up in the oil sands, north slope, etc. Cost more to haul the truck somewhere and warranty a repair just to have it happen again next week then to fix it yourself.
I can attest that in the winter up north, with a fleet of 40-50 new diesel pickups all 3 brands, I had at least one or 2 a day with emissions related problems. After running thru the whole fleet the first one would cr ap out again!
I wish they were deleted but instead it created 3 full time jobs, day, night and relief shift just fixing epa mandated stuff. - ApprovedAnonymous
JustLabs wrote:
proxim2020 wrote:
JustLabs wrote:
If the CP4 goes,it goes. Not much you can do about it.
Some guys are so afraid of a potential $10,000 CP4 repair,they'll drop $50,000+ on a new truck.
Makes perfect sense...lol
Ain't a whole lot of people dropping $50k on a truck. That's why all the dealers have finance departments with 7+ year loans. Repair shops don't have finance departments so you got to pony up the $10k cash that day. That is unless you have some savior come and eat the cost for you like an insurance company.
Cash up front or a payment for 7 years. My point is the same.
And what would that be? That a potential repair that's equal or more than 20 percent of the original purchase price of the truck isn't anything to be worried about? That's a pretty big concern for some. - drittalExplorerDEF: Saving the environment one plastic jug and cardboard box at a time. SMH.
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