My co-worker has a 2012 Ram 1500 "Punisher" edition (Really a sharp looking truck). With this pkg, it has different tires and larger HP motor. Is considering getting a 5th wheel, but before doing so (still has a lot of looking to do), I asked him to provide me with some info to see what he can/can't tow.This is what he has given me so far:1. 425+/- hp engine2. 3.55 gears (from label attached to axle)3. 12 bolt axle cover, Dana_____4. Auto trans5. 4wd6. Crew or club (I don't know when Ram came out w/ true CC)7. Stock tires removed and larger 20" that don't say either P or LT yet have max air psi of 50 and weight rating of 3K +.8. Data label on door says GVW of 6700 (I think it's that or darn close to it)9. Stock tire info on label says max air psi is 35.10. Both axle capacities are 3900 (again I think ---CRS on my end).He has no idea what his truck weighs but did tell him to fill w/ gas and go to a CAT scale. He doesn't want to switch out tires which BTW are something like 4 or 6 ply which I feel could be a limiting factor. Has some kind of special rims too w/ pkg. So my question(s) to you all is where does he stand? More info needed?He recently towed a 28'BH TT approx 2 hours last w/e w/o incident. First time he's towed camper as it has been on a seasonal site since new (2005). Any assistance that can be provided will be greatly appreciated and passed on.Thank you in advance.AC

If he changed out the wheels he also needs to know the wheel rating. After market wheels sometimes have a very low capacity.

Not a chance in h!!! that he'll find a 5'er with a low enough pin weight for his truck. 6700 GVW is way, way down on the 1/2 ton GVW scale. I would be willing to bet he doesn't have much over 1,000lbs for payload. Then just minus him at 150lbs? and now he's at 850lbs. He's better off looking for a TT in the 4,000lb dry weight area.

For me, what it mostly comes down to is:1) What's the cargo carrying capacity sticker say?2) If he hits a scale, what is his GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating), RAWR (rear axle weight rating) and FAWR (front axle weight rating) compared against his actual weights?3) What is the tire load capacity on the tires + wheels he has now?Edit to add: obviously I didn't read your original post closely enough. You've answered a lot of these.I agree, with a GVWR of 6,700 pounds - he's going to be hard-pressed to tow much of anything once he adds the rest of himself (if over 150 pounds), passenger(s), pet(s), stuff into/onto the truck, hitch and have anything left over for pin weight.

In most cases 5er's and 15 series trucks don't match up to well. I believe the Ram towing guide even says " fifth wheel towing not recommended".

9. Stock tire info on label says max air psi is 35.LOL, what are they bicycle tires?

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Bumpyroad
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
that Ram punished him all right.
bumpy
NC_Hauler
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
I wouldn't tow with it, not that 5er...he has hardly any GVWR on the truck, but guess he can use up all his RAWR, seems the way it's done now a day's. but if tires only air to 35 psi, doesn't sound like he has "E" rated tires which I'd recommend. Sounds like a truck you would run from light to light to take to the grocery store, or haul soccer equipment in...don't think I'd hitch the 5er that is being talked about up to it. But if he has already done it, why does he want information NOW?? One of those, "my mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts type thing"....

I would say it's a Crew Cab...truck in sig makes 3rd "crew cab" I've owned and if OP's is a 12" crew cab" it's bigger than a "club cab" I think

I'd look at one of those little Scamp 5er's, or get a truck that one would actually use to tow with..even another 1/2 ton that is actually set up to tow would be better, but if they have a 12', doubt they're going to buy another truck
gmcsmoke
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
9. Stock tire info on label says max air psi is 35.

LOL, what are they bicycle tires?
45Ricochet
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
In most cases 5er's and 15 series trucks don't match up to well. I believe the Ram towing guide even says " fifth wheel towing not recommended".
ependydad
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
For me, what it mostly comes down to is:

1) What's the cargo carrying capacity sticker say?
2) If he hits a scale, what is his GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating), RAWR (rear axle weight rating) and FAWR (front axle weight rating) compared against his actual weights?
3) What is the tire load capacity on the tires + wheels he has now?

Edit to add: obviously I didn't read your original post closely enough. You've answered a lot of these.

I agree, with a GVWR of 6,700 pounds - he's going to be hard-pressed to tow much of anything once he adds the rest of himself (if over 150 pounds), passenger(s), pet(s), stuff into/onto the truck, hitch and have anything left over for pin weight.
goducks10
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
Not a chance in h!!! that he'll find a 5'er with a low enough pin weight for his truck. 6700 GVW is way, way down on the 1/2 ton GVW scale. I would be willing to bet he doesn't have much over 1,000lbs for payload. Then just minus him at 150lbs? and now he's at 850lbs. He's better off looking for a TT in the 4,000lb dry weight area.
copeland343
Explorer
Jun 19, 2013
If he changed out the wheels he also needs to know the wheel rating. After market wheels sometimes have a very low capacity.

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