2014 GM Truck Info
The GM 2014 Order Guide is published. There is no extended cab HD (2500 or 3500) for 2014. There is no 2500 Suburban/Yukon XL for 2014.
Forum Discussion
BenK says: "More 'car' attributes than 'truck' these days..."
Yes, that's what we said earlier ... a truck now looks like a car with a bed on the back ... even two full-size seats inside now and a shorter bed on those dual cabs.
Plus, you sit inside you can't tell the difference from a car - fluff carpet, high-end music, padded everything, bucket seats, plugs for ET stuff, little storage boxes for everything. Electronic controls for Heat and A/C that fail but have ten positions when we only need two (temp control is pretty simple, we're sitting in a closet, not a basketball court) ... Plush, plush instead of work, work. Electronic controls that fail often and cost a fortune (4x4 switch for example = $600) when a floor lever works just fine and never fails when you're in the back-country and really NEED it, need it, not just want to use it ...
We like comfort as much as the next person, but if someone offered me a truck-truck for $20 grand less than those $55K packages you can automatically get at least the $10K inflated price off without the fluff and frills instead of a car-truck, we'd be driving new already.
And we're not saying take away the engineering and safety and stability, we're saying take off the six-grand for the 'fancy interior' packages and give us one 'function package' ... like heavy shocks, E tires, and extra springs, wide mirrors, good lights and stronger brakes, a tranny cooler, ... forget the fancy leather and the ten huge and loud speakers and six way seats (heated???) -
Four small speakers reach two feet from the mount-bracket to my ears just fine, and I generally move my seat ONCE when I buy the truck and sit in it for the first time. So all that fancy seat motor movement is an expensive waste of money. Believe me, I know how to pull that manual lever if my leg gets a twitch in it after a thousand miles ...
Most of the trucks today are so "the same" it don't really matter much between them for quality. It's more the eye-candy part that sells it anyway, I think. So, folks, we don't really care who builds it, just offer a Truck Model instead of a Car Model and ship it our way, then go cash the check. Make us happy campers.
Yes, that's what we said earlier ... a truck now looks like a car with a bed on the back ... even two full-size seats inside now and a shorter bed on those dual cabs.
Plus, you sit inside you can't tell the difference from a car - fluff carpet, high-end music, padded everything, bucket seats, plugs for ET stuff, little storage boxes for everything. Electronic controls for Heat and A/C that fail but have ten positions when we only need two (temp control is pretty simple, we're sitting in a closet, not a basketball court) ... Plush, plush instead of work, work. Electronic controls that fail often and cost a fortune (4x4 switch for example = $600) when a floor lever works just fine and never fails when you're in the back-country and really NEED it, need it, not just want to use it ...
We like comfort as much as the next person, but if someone offered me a truck-truck for $20 grand less than those $55K packages you can automatically get at least the $10K inflated price off without the fluff and frills instead of a car-truck, we'd be driving new already.
And we're not saying take away the engineering and safety and stability, we're saying take off the six-grand for the 'fancy interior' packages and give us one 'function package' ... like heavy shocks, E tires, and extra springs, wide mirrors, good lights and stronger brakes, a tranny cooler, ... forget the fancy leather and the ten huge and loud speakers and six way seats (heated???) -
Four small speakers reach two feet from the mount-bracket to my ears just fine, and I generally move my seat ONCE when I buy the truck and sit in it for the first time. So all that fancy seat motor movement is an expensive waste of money. Believe me, I know how to pull that manual lever if my leg gets a twitch in it after a thousand miles ...
Most of the trucks today are so "the same" it don't really matter much between them for quality. It's more the eye-candy part that sells it anyway, I think. So, folks, we don't really care who builds it, just offer a Truck Model instead of a Car Model and ship it our way, then go cash the check. Make us happy campers.
