bmanning wrote:
2012Coleman wrote:
monkey44 wrote:
atvanish wrote:
Sorry - guess I was hoping for some door stickers.. ;) I've found the numbers online but it seems they are usually 200-400 lower in person... But thanks!
Door sticker numbers subtract the actual weight of options - but the advertising shows 'basic stripped model' - that's why you usually can't find it in person. No one buys the basic stripped versions.
Agree 100% - and your so called "'best in class towing numbers" are calculated in non real world conditions like having a half tank of gas, no cargo and a really skinny driver. Don't be fooled by what is advertised.
Not disagreeing with you- it is annoying- but everyone complains about the parameters used to arrive at the max towing weight (1/2 tank gas, driver) but who has a better idea?
Should they subtract for a full tank of fuel, four 200lb'ers in the cab and 500lb in the bed? Now they've shot themselves in the foot for those who don't load nearly that heavy.
It's the nature of marketing-- make whatever you're selling sound as amazing as possible without outright lying.
Of course they're using a 150lb driver and a half-tank of fuel...it's the smartest thing they could be doing from a marketing perspective.
It doesn't apply just to vehicles...go buy a bag of Doritos...you bought a bag that's about 11" tall standing up and has about 6.5" of chips in it.
I'll tell you who has a better idea - The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE)Look at the following links:
Link 1Link 2The only manufacturer to adopt the SAE standard is Toyota in 2011 - their numbers actually dropped. For more info just Google "New Towing Standards"