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dean271
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Feb 15, 2015

2015 Ford F150 V6 Eco Boost

I have a '15 Ford F150 4-dr shortbed V6 Eco-boost and am looking to purchase the 2612 Lance Toy Hauler with a 7000 lb dry weight, 10,000 lb gross weight rating. Has anyone towed something of similar weight w/ the '15 Ford F150? If so, please advise on the experience of the tow and give any other suggestions.
  • As mentioned base curb weight listed of 5000 lbs will be under actual weight. However, using this let's see how the numbers add up.

    Assuming weight evenly distributed between both axles puts 2500 on back axle. With a RAWR of 3800 that leaves 1300 left on that axle.

    My trailer weighs 6500 dry and ready to camp is 8000 so there is 1500 worth of options and gear and no toys (not a toy hauler). If we use these comparatively low numbers for your proposed rig you start at 7000 but will be more like 8500 (before toys). Use a tongue weight of 15% of 8500 is 1275 leaving you 125 payload remaining on your rear axle before passengers or cargo. This is assuming the base curb weight (which is likely low) and you are not exceeding 15% of the tongue.

    This may also be exceeding the hitch rating. The 2011-2014 was 1150 or so. What the does the sticker on the hitch say for the 2015 F150 for max hitch weight?

    Good luck,
    Stu
  • milo's avatar
    milo
    Explorer II
    Dean271..you need to actually weigh your truck to get actual weights. You say the sticker says 4925 as the curb weight. Could actually be 300 or 400 lbs heavier. My HD Eco curb weight stated was 5860 and actual weight off the lot was 6200lbs.
  • Base curb weights are for base model trucks. No one buys the XL/Work/ base truck with no options and I believe no fluids. That's why it is best to focus on the Tire and loading sticker which is GVWR - as equipped truck and full of fluids/gas.

    OP, toy haulers and half tons are a tough mix. Most travel trailers have 1000-2000 pounds of payload or what the RV industry calls cargo carrying capacity (CCC). This is adequate for clothes, food, cooking gear, toys, etc that RV owners take for long weekends, maybe a week. If you need to carry toys plus typical camping gear, then the frame will be stronger so the base weight will be higher for the same length. Another difference with toy haulers is that most are designed to carry the extra weight of toys behind the trailer axles. So the dry tongue weight is typically more than 15%. It can be tricky based on what the toys are and how they are loaded to lower the TW percentage over dry. That Lance isn't too bad, actually. I've seen 20% dry for some similar TH models.

    Still, 7k dry, 1000 pounds for RV stuff, and how much for toys is more than I recommend for half tons. The receivers are rated at 1220 pounds max, and your payload is with 1200 pounds of TW is also limiting.
  • My friend was getting his new 150 delivered this month but now it is not on the build date because of a problem at ford. Anybody know what the problem is? I did not have time to ask or hear if he knew why.

    chevman
  • dean271 wrote:
    Jeremiah,
    These are the vehicle spec's - Got 3.5 Eco-boost, payload 1628, axle code L9? Front GAWR 3450 lbs., Rear GAWR 3800 lbs., GVWR 7000 lbs.,GCWR 16,900, Base Curb Weight (No cargo/passengers) 4925 lbs....

    We haven't purchased an RV yet, don't want to make a mistake. We do want a toy hauler.


    Chart is hard to read but you have a 3.55, Electronic Locking rear.

    Use this chart to
    find the axle ratio that corresponds to that code:
    Rear Axle Non-Limited Limited Electronic
    Vehicle Ratio Slip Slip Locking
    F-150 3.15 15 Not Available L5
    3.31 27 Not Available L3
    3.55 19 H9 L9
    3.73 26 B6 L6
    4.10 Not Available Not Available L4

    Also have another quest. IF you have a actual curb weight of 4925lbs, and you have a GVWR of 7000lbs. Would you not have a actual payload of 2075lb, as GVWR minus curb weight equals payload. Or GVWR of 7000lb minus truck weight of 4825lb equals carrying capacity of 2075lbs. ?
    What am I missing.
  • Jeremiah,
    These are the vehicle spec's - Got 3.5 Eco-boost, payload 1628, axle code L9? Front GAWR 3450 lbs., Rear GAWR 3800 lbs., GVWR 7000 lbs.,GCWR 16,900, Base Curb Weight (No cargo/passengers) 4925 lbs....

    We haven't purchased an RV yet, don't want to make a mistake. We do want a toy hauler.
  • Dean... I think you get the first Aluminum EcoBoost F150 on RV.net award.

    Can you check your payload sticker on the drivers door and tell us how much your F150 can "carry".

    Also, what is your Axle code on a door sticker that should be pretty close to the payload (tire and loading sticker)

    Your new truck is very nice and we are anxious to hear some real world data on this truck.

    Also, which EcoBoost did you get? 2.7 or 3.5?

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • Where you may have a problem is with your payload. There are a variety of configurations on the F150's. They can have anywhere between 750 and 3200 lbs of payload.

    Payload is your truck's capacity to carry the weight of aftermarket accessories, people, cargo, WD hitch, and tongue weight.

    Toy haulers are intentionally built to be heavy on tongue weight. This is to counter the weight of your toys and still maintain the necessary tongue weight. At gross weight that trailer could have tongue weight between 1000 and 1500 lbs.
    It's possible, the trailer (with WD hitch) could take up 1600 lbs of payload.

    You should check the payload on your specific truck. It needs to have enough capacity available to carry everything and everybody, you plan to put in or on the truck, plus, up to 1600 lbs from the trailer.

    If you don't have the heavy duty payload and towing packages, you probably don't have the payload to handle that trailer.