Forum Discussion
allen8106 wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
good reason to carry a CO2 or Halon Fire extinguisher in the cab a couple blast in the air intake will remove the oxygen and the engine will die. I would prefer halon, as less thermal shock. Some how that engine started sucking oil from the crankcase.
If your referring to the white smoke that's water not oil. Oil would be black smoke. Water comes out a s white smoke.
Diesels can also blow White smoke. White smoke can happen from an enrichment condition as well. Look at more diesel run-away videos and you will see plenty of diesels putting out white/grey smoke as well. Here's a compilation that shows it Youtube. Heck, even gasoline engines can have bluish/whitish smoke when burning oil as well.rhagfo wrote:
good reason to carry a CO2 or Halon Fire extinguisher in the cab a couple blast in the air intake will remove the oxygen and the engine will die. I would prefer halon, as less thermal shock. Some how that engine started sucking oil from the crankcase.
If your referring to the white smoke that's water not oil. Oil would be black smoke. Water comes out a s white smoke.- any problems you are having with the throttle valve on a diesel engine can be fixed with this Throttle Valve Delete Hope this helps, just recently found this item but i have heard great reviews about it
Swamp Man wrote:
What happened at the refinery was that there was a leak of raw gasoline in the refinery due to a engineering failure which resulted in a running Ford truck sucking in the vapors and becoming the ignition source for the explosion. This had nothing to do with the engine running away.
I was just commenting on what the CSB video showed when it stated that the idling diesel engine strongly revved up due to the combustible vapors being in the air.PaulJ2 wrote:
Just curious, what would you do if this happened while driving down the road? Maybe drag it down to a stop with the brakes, throw it in park, then bail out and run?
Well if you don't have a air cut off valve, I think the engine is toast. I drive a manual and in fours years I have only killed the engine about three times, starting off from a stop. Understand the normal method is to release the clutch then step on the throttle, and as close to zero slipping as you can. I don't think even with my Double Disk clutch dropping the hammer in OD (5th) would kill it.PaulJ2 wrote:
Just curious, what would you do if this happened while driving down the road? Maybe drag it down to a stop with the brakes, throw it in park, then bail out and run?
Toss it in neutral, stop, get out and film it. Wouldn't even try to plug the intake, let it blow and let GM put a new engine in it.- In my situation, all my attorney did was write a letter. I did not get a copy.
I also believe he talked with the dealership attorneys. As I understand it, the letter spelled out the facts and demanded that the dealership pay for the ruined engine. Or else !
The end agreement was that I would pay for the turbo replacement and the dealership would pay all costs for the replacement engine and installation.
Tim - How far did the attorney have to go to get them to concede was it just phone calls and letters or did he have to file papers or court appearances.
I myself have noticed more of a "what are you going to do about it?" attitude with dealership's service department. I can normally negotiate something acceptable but a few times wondered what a lawyer can accomplish with less time/effort.GoPackGo wrote:
rhagfo - I can tell you exactly where the oil came from.
Had that happen to my '02 Duramax. At the dealership.
The turbo oil seal failed at 105,000 miles. The failed seal apparently allowed oil to collect in the intercooler (I think). This happened over a really short timeframe. We knew something was wrong because the engine oil level was suddenly several quarts low.
Chevy/GM would not warranty the turbo so I paid $3500 for a replacement and install costs. Thanks Chevy.
Dealer installed the new turbo and cranked up the motor. The engine sucked up all the accumulated oil (quarts). Ran wide open in neutral till very bad things happened. Dealer pulled the heads. The result was bent valves for sure, ugly pistons, and probably con rods. In any event the motor was toast. The dealer said it was not their bill since I did not tell them to clean out the intercooler. They said the motor replacement costs would be another $10,000. My bill.
I finally had to get a lawyer involved to get the dealer to spring for the new motor and install costs.
Corporate Chevy was no help with this situation by the way.
Hey GM - I sure do like my F350 !
Tim - Just curious, what would you do if this happened while driving down the road? Maybe drag it down to a stop with the brakes, throw it in park, then bail out and run?
GoPackGo wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Glad you're happy with your Ford but why should GM (or any manufacture for that matter) pay for something that was over the warrantee period? :h
(better hope you don't have a CP4 failure or you're going to be happy with Ford too.) :B
I'll tell you why.
I did not pay a $6-7,000 premium for a motor that would have a major mechanical problem 5000 miles outside of the warranty period - and not be covered. I expected some consideration. I even wrote a letter to Chevy detailing how I had been buying new Chevys for the last 20+ years. No response.
I realize mechanical parts can fail so it's what happens after that's important.
I traded my Honda Element with 185,000 miles on it when I got the new Ford. The Honda was running perfectly, just like it always had. Never a problem. No out of pocket costs except for normal wear and tear (tires, etc).
Shouldn't I expect at least the same service from a $50,000 truck (2002 cost) as a $24,000 4 cylinder commuter car ?
And if I have problems with this truck, as you allude, then it will be Dodge/Ram's turn.
Tim
Yet another reason many of us no longer "drink the Kool-aide" when it comes to diesels. Once bitten, twice shy. It only takes one bad diesel in your life to permanently mess up the shaky economics of recreational diesel ownership for your entire life.
Just sayin.
