2015 powerstroke 440hp/860tq

4x4ord wrote:

ricatic wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Ric I've often wondered what you think of the 6.7 engine.

IOW's lets say the HPFP did not blow in your engine. I know you had other problems with the engine. Mostly PITA stuff if I remember correctly? But quite a few items also?

What kind of a rating would you give "your" first gen 6.7 engine?

Because you're on the boards a lot my next question would be what kind of rating would you give "the" first gen 6.7 engine?

my rating of the Ford 6.7 would be "not enough time on it to endorse it as completely viable"...I had many issues with mine...fan clutch, NOX sensors, a failed fuel injector and then the biggie...all but the biggie were fixed under warranty...I was already becoming a bit discouraged before the HPFP failure...

I do believe Ford has very quietly went about fixing the HPFP issue...there have been several part number changes as they continued researching and upgrading the pump to operate on the poor quality fuel available in the USA...Good for the owners of the later incarnations of the pump...still need to hold your breath if you have a 2011 or early 2012...

Is it a better choice than a 6.0 or 6.4 Ford...maybe...as long as you are fortunate enough to stay out of the small percentage of buyers who have had HPFP failures...but Ford could have eliminated the whole issue as a malingering problem by doing as GM has done and fixed the pumps under warranty...they still are the only manufacturer using Bosch CP4.xx series HPFP's that does not follow that path...

Regards

It seems to me that if the early 6.7 had faulty pumps, as time goes on and more miles are put on 2011s the rate of failure would be increasing. Because I see these 6.7s all over the road and have yet to run across anyone who has had a problem I can't help but wonder whether there wasn't some early production trucks that were fitted with pumps that were destined for destruction in the first few thousand miles. If they didn't fail by 20,000 miles maybe the risk of a pump failure actually drops off?

Your point is well taken...but there have been more than just a few failures. Consumer awareness of the fragility of the pump when exposed to US spec fuel and the poor performance of the fuel filtering system has caused many owners to use additives, increase the frequency of water separator maintenance and increased vigilance over their maintenance overall...

For the record, my pump failed at 35000 miles. It self destructed internally. No evidence of water ingestion was found in the secondary filter or the pump itself..it just failed...and Ford could have been a standup company and fixed it under warranty...didn't happen and that's why the debate continues...

Regards