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Feb 29, 2016

2015 Starcraft Travel Star Expandable 229TB- Tow Vehicle?

And any other comments/reviews?

We are a family of 5, 2 older {17 & 15} teens, and a 10 1/2 year old, who are looking to get our first trailer in the fall. I have been looking, we have been to a few shows and looked at what we like and what we can afford. One of the trailers that fits both columns is the Travel Star 229TB. GVWR is 4,519, so I'm *assuming* loaded with propane, fresh water and four days worth of clothes and food for 5 humans and 2 dogs that we're looking at an actual weight of 5,000 pounds.

I'm supposed to be getting a Traverse for Christmas. I've been driving minivans for almost 12 years and am over it. The current one we've had for 2 years and it's had 3 sets of sliding door motors on both sides in that time. I drove a Traverse on a recent trip and fell in love with it. Everyone fits, a weekend's worth of clothing and a cooler fit, albeit snugly, in the back and it handles so much smoother than my van. But the towing capacity per Chevrolet is 5,200# *with* the towing package. I know from reading here that I have to count the weight of the people {and animals} in the tow vehicle in the weight calculations, so that would put us roughly 656 pounds over towing capacity.

We recently started looking at Dodge Durangos after some online research into best seven passenger vehicles for towing. The 7k towing capacity obviously appeals to me, though the third row seats look a little stiff for long trips.

Any thoughts? Experience with either the trailer or one of similar weight and an SUV as towing vehicle? Our budget for towing vehicle is $28k max so obviously going with used/certified used with unlimited mileage warranty.
  • At least 7500 tow capacity for a 5400gvw trailer. Next look for proper payload ratings of the tow vehicle. My 3/4 ton sub has 2400lbs payload, and 7600lb towing. The most I would tow would be a 6500lb gross camper with my 10 mpg SUV on roids.
  • vipers_princess wrote:
    Thank you. I would be looking for an older model anyway because I flat don't like the look of the newer ones. Not super old, because Dodge so hubby wants the unlimited mileage warranty. Not that I blame him, my Chrysler has had more problems than i care to think about and the warranty saved us thousands.


    I've owned mostly Dodge's for many years. So far very few problems. Durango now has 150,000 miles on it and looks and runs great. Repairs have been limited to replacing alternator and A/C compressor. Nothing else. I've heard people with issues on some of the 90's Chrysler cars but not much otherwise.
  • I think the perfect set up for you folks would be the Durango and a Roo/Shamrock 233s,

    Do a search on cars.com, don't be afraid to drive a little ways to get a Durango, sometimes you can find a Dodge at a Chevy dealer that is just not moving and you can get a great deal, I got a "killer" deal on my Tahoe at a Jeep dealer 100 miles away from me, once you buy the car any Dodge dealer will service it.

    I just bought a 2016 Shamrock 23ws and these campers tow REALLY well, they have independent suspension and have many bells and whistles that are great for camping

    Again, I saved $3000 on my camper just by doing a lot of searching on the internet, I drove 5 hours to get my camper at Collerian in Ohio, they were great to deal with, my sales guy was named Matt.

    That Hemi in that Durango would be super! Don't be afraid of the newer ones, they have the most safety items built in, crash zones, air bags etc, also mine has a tow button that makes the transmission shift differently when towing (I love this feature and maybe the newer Durangos have it too)

    If you are willing to travel a bit and willing to do searching on the computer you can save a lot of money.
  • bikendan wrote:
    Forget the Traverse!

    The new 5.7 Durango would be a much better choice but have you checked out the newer crew cab trucks?
    My recommendation would be a Expedition or Suburban, if you want room.

    Also, there are other 3 bunk hybrids out there with a slideout,which would make a big difference for a family of 5, especially with two teens.

    Like the Roo/Shamrock 233S or Jayco X23F.


    Thank you. I would love a truck, we rent a Ram 1500 from time to time to haul lumber and things for our woodworking & sign business. It's just a bit too snug with the teens and the dogs in the cab, and the furthest we go is usually 3 hours each way.
  • mileshuff wrote:
    I towed our 5,000lb hybrid for 10 years with a 2004 5.7L Durango. Pulled it very well. That said I'm not sure about the newer Durangos. The 2004-2010's use are built on a truck type chassis with fully formed square tube frame that is very solid, no flex. They also use solid live axles front and rear which in my opinion results in superior handling when towing. The new Durango's have a D channel frame and independent suspension. Makes for a great comfy smooth ride but I would think would reduce handling when loaded down.


    Thank you. I would be looking for an older model anyway because I flat don't like the look of the newer ones. Not super old, because Dodge so hubby wants the unlimited mileage warranty. Not that I blame him, my Chrysler has had more problems than i care to think about and the warranty saved us thousands.
  • I towed our 5,000lb hybrid for 10 years with a 2004 5.7L Durango. Pulled it very well. That said I'm not sure about the newer Durangos. The 2004-2010's use are built on a truck type chassis with fully formed square tube frame that is very solid, no flex. They also use solid live axles front and rear which in my opinion results in superior handling when towing. The new Durango's have a D channel frame and independent suspension. Makes for a great comfy smooth ride but I would think would reduce handling when loaded down.
  • My Highlander is just about the same size and power as the Traverse. Nope, not that trailer with the Traverse, forget it. V8 Durango, yes! They are pretty nice riding vehicles, a little stiffer suspension than the Traverse, but still comfortable. I came close last year to buying a Jeep Grand Cherokee, very similar but no 3rd row.
  • Forget the Traverse!

    The new 5.7 Durango would be a much better choice but have you checked out the newer crew cab trucks?
    My recommendation would be a Expedition or Suburban, if you want room.

    Also, there are other 3 bunk hybrids out there with a slideout,which would make a big difference for a family of 5, especially with two teens.

    Like the Roo/Shamrock 233S or Jayco X23F.
  • Specs at Starcraft website

    I see the GVWR at 5,450 lbs. which is the maximum weight the trailer should be fully loaded. The specs show that you are starting at 4,115 lbs. But, if you are looking at the sticker on the actual trailer, it may be different. Bottom line is plan on towing 5,450 lbs. when you are looking at getting a tow vehicle, and I wouldn't do it with a Traverse. I'd be looking for a tow vehicle capable of towing 6,500 lbs. or more. A good 1/2 ton truck would work well.

    I'm towing between 6-6,500 lbs. with my Tundra and feel that it is an idea towing weight for the truck, even with two folding bikes and other stuff loaded on the bed. My personal opinion is that you don't want to exceed 80% of the tow vehicles capacity...but that's only my opinion and others have no problem towing at capacity or over.

    We owned three Starcraft Popups back in the 80's and 90's and they were nice little campers. I did have trouble with the second unit I owned, and Starcraft provided great service under warranty...they sent a new axle by air freight and allowed me to have the work performes at a local dealer that didn't sell Starcraft products.