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Travlingman wrote:
I find it interesting that the truck that is J2807 compliant, as we are constantly reminded, was pulling roughly 70% of its rating, was beat by a non-compliant truck that was pulling 90% of its rating.
Would like to see what the Ford could do with its 4.30 gearing.
Remember they were constantly saying the truck was in it's sweet spot the how well ford did with their gearing.
Sorry but 65 more HP should have done much better. The Ford does not put as much of the advertised HP to the ground as the Cummins does. I saw it first hand at a Vegas Dyno. BD ran their 2012 400 HP and put down 80% of advertised. My 350 hp 2011 Cummins hit 305hp at 87%.
Ford provided the truck for the test. If they thought the 4:30 would have done better that is what they would have provided.
As far as being constantly reminded of the J2807 I think it is relevant and it just proves Ford has just been upping their ratings with nothing to back it up. They knew if they went compliant they would have to lower some claims. Believe me they WILL meet the standards if they ever change from their 1999 platform.larry barnhart wrote:
But what if the lie o meter off on either truck and the difference in noise is a big item for some.
chevman
Larry my truck is not NOISY at all even when pulling 6% grades at 2700RPM's. It's that the Ford and GM's are quieter. Big deal, it's more important what one will do it day in and day out. Also more important is what one is actually rated to do what they claim by an independent test. SAE J2807.
The lie O meter may be off but the TFL guys did say the truck's larger turbo has caused the newer Ford 6.7 to be more thirsty.
The TFL guys need something to like more on the Ford then the RAM.ib516 wrote:
Hope they test the Duramax too.
At the end of the video they stated GM didn't have one available so it sounds like a Duramax will not be part of this test.- Hope they test the Duramax too.
Travlingman wrote:
I find it interesting that the truck that is J2807 compliant, as we are constantly reminded, was pulling roughly 70% of its rating, was beat by a non-compliant truck that was pulling 90% of its rating.
Would like to see what the Ford could do with its 4.30 gearing.
Seems like everyone thinks a standard is a maximum. Standards are a minimum in performance. Standards can and typically are exceeded. The thing is, J2807 does more than acceleration. It also addresses startability and some braking. One has to question what the F-350 is not achieving that makes it unable to meet J2807 specs. So personally, I wonder why the F-350 isn't noted as J2807 compliant, however the F-450 is.- So close it doesn't matter. 25 seconds over that distance is pretty insignificant, as is 0.3 mpg.
- I find it interesting that the truck that is J2807 compliant, as we are constantly reminded, was pulling roughly 70% of its rating, was beat by a non-compliant truck that was pulling 90% of its rating.
Would like to see what the Ford could do with its 4.30 gearing. - But what if the lie o meter off on either truck and the difference in noise is a big item for some.
chevman - Thanks Fish!
Does not look like 55 more HP does a lot. 20 seconds over 10 minutes. They all thought the engine was in the sweet spot so no excuse for gearing.
The biggie is 10 % worse mileage. - Watched it this morning as they are always entertaining. I don't think you can go wrong with either the Ram or the Ford. Comes down to pricing and options that would determine it for me. My 97 has many years left before I go the new truck route.
