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- I guess if we needed a new truck we would lose some mpg from what the test on the new truck are getting. No way will I even test drive any new truck of any brand.
chevman - I would feel great about owning and towing with any of the three. They are all very nice trucks.
- Now as I have said and has been said in this post even 2 mpg between the three trucks is not a big deal. Given the fact that they didn't do an apples to apples comparison. You know like trim levels, axle ratio's things like that. I do like the fact that they used the same trailer for all the tests with the same weight. Just maybe do 10 loops with each truck with identical equipment (or as close as you can) and the same axle ratios.
With today's manufacturing tolerances the powertrian components should give the same results within 1 mpg in each brand. It's not like the old days were they had to match pistons to cylinders in every engine do to only being able to hold +/- .005 if they were lucky. Today we hold to tenths of one thousandth or .00025 or 60 microns. So there should not be a a large discrepancy between vehicles of the same manufacture.
The big difference is drivers, even if it's the same driver doing the testing. No one can duplicate their drive style 100% of the time. The fact that the he said the Ram just feels like it has "gobs of power to give" and the GM/Chevy "doesn't feel like it has" (go to 5.22 in the video). What affect does that have on the test?
Bottom line in the 100 mile test the Ram made 10.16 mpg with 4.10 gears, the GM/Chevy made 10.43 mpg with 3.73 gears.
Between the Ford and the Ram with a different load and trailer the Ram made 14.20 mpg with again 4.10 gears and the Ford made 12.36 mpg with 3.73 gears.
Wounder why TFL didn't include the Ford in the 100 mile loop test? The Ram they used in the baby test with the Ford looked to be the same truck as the one used in the 100 mile test with the GM! Maybe I'll ask them under the comments section and see if I get an answer.
Don - X6 or so!
100 mile single drive is not squat. Need several trucks, much longer distance.
With today's trucks likely not a big difference between the big three! - Did I heard them right that the Ford was 2 MPG less????
Most likely within the margin of testing errors???
Beside nothing, what does this all mean?
Chris - And, for the sake of completeness... here's the Ford F-350 vs the Ram 3500. 2015, but they haven't changed much.
TFL - Part I - Ram 3500
TFL - Part II - Ford F-350
Results at the end of Part II, if you don't feel like watching the whole thing.
Couldn't find a Chevy vs. Ford, or I'd have included that, too. - 3.73s vs 4.10s in that comparison. Seems a little silly.
- The test I know about was my brother driving a 2006 F-250 hit a Mercedes at 60 mph and my brother is still here and the other drive was smashed. My brother was so impressed he found another 06.
chevman N-Trouble wrote:
Statistically these tests dont mean squat. Mileage can vary greatly from one truck to another (same brand/model) especially on these newer emissions equipped trucks. Unless they are testing 10 or more of each brand and collecting actual data I will accept this as entertainment more than usable data.
None of these tests are ever statistically correct. I minimum sample size would be 30 and even more samples are required to increase your confidence level. No one has the time or money to perform statistically correct data and such tests is a barometer of each one's performance. Entertainment purposes is probably a good description hence the "Enjoy" statement.- Statistically these tests dont mean squat. Mileage can vary greatly from one truck to another (same brand/model) especially on these newer emissions equipped trucks. Unless they are testing 10 or more of each brand and collecting actual data I will accept this as entertainment more than usable data.
