2016 Toyota Tundra to come with Cummins diesel

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Nope I'll stand by my opinion, that both Nissan and Toyota are getting into the HD market, or at lest are coming out with a 2500 truck. They may not build a 3500 right out of the box but they are IMO going to do a 2500.

It would be awesome if they did, but no amount of marketing can overcome the reputation or image their 1/2 tons have already established. Why would Nissan and Toyota jump into the 3/4 ton market when sales for the Nissan Titan 1/2 ton are nearly non-existent, and the sales of the Toyota Tundra 1/2 ton are significantly below Toyota's long-range goals? So far, Nissan and Toyota have shown they don't have the heart to compete seriously in the 1/2 ton segment. The Nissan Titan hasn't changed in 10 years. The "new" 2014 Tundra has the same 7-8 year old drivetrain, a new grill/tailgate, and interior--that's it.

I get your point that the 5.0 Cummins, in some respects, may be more at home in a 3/4 ton truck. But, the reality is, a 5.0 Cummins 3/4 ton would be dead on arrival if it tried to compete with the larger 6.7++ liter 3/4 ton diesel offerings from the Big 3. It would be labeled a wannabe and wimpy.

IMO, with the new 5.0 Cummins diesel engine, both Nissan and Toyota have an opportunity to build a 1/2 ton, class leading diesel truck. As I've mentioned several times before, if they can obtain 2000 lbs. payload, 12,500 lbs. of tow capacity, and empty, low-mid 20's highway MPG, they will fill a huge void in the market---offer a class-leading, 1/2 ton truck and NOT a 3/4 ton wannabe---no excuses, no compromises--just a kick-ass, 1/2 ton truck.

For so many that are on the fence trying to choose between a big, 1/2 ton gasser, or a 3/4 ton diesel, Nissan and Toyota may just provide the choice they've been looking for.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Anyone that thinks that V-8 Cummins is going in to a 1500 might want to rethink that opinion. Think about it, with the weight of a V-8 cast iron block they will have less payload then the Ram! Then add the fact that it is rated at 300HP and 500-600 torque. That's a lot of engine for a 1500 truck.

The new Cummins 5.0 has a Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI) block which should weigh about 20% less than standard iron block. It also has aluminum heads, so it might not be quite as heavy as we think. We'll see . . .