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brulaz wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.
Hmmmmm. Not sure about this. I thought RAM's aggressive downshifting was controlled entirely by T/H mode, not the mode of the exhaust brake.
I've used Full exhaust brake mode down some steep Appalachian slopes, along with T/H, and it definitely downshifts aggressively. Can't imagine Auto mode doing it any better.
Full mode will slow down the truck even when it's not accelerating. Auto mode only activates when it is accelerating, or you touch the brakes.
Puckuptrucks.com(and myself) has already tested this. They had less brakes applications using the EB in Auto mode than in regular mode.
They actually had to hit the accelerator because it slowed them down too much versus no accelerator touches in regular mode. Don't imagine it not doing any better, try it and see.ShinerBock wrote:
... Although he would be lying if he said he could have broke the speed limit all the way up the hill. When they took the decibel reading, he clearly said he was wide open throttle yet not exceeding the speed limit.
Not at all. If he exceeded the speed limit at the beginning of the run, he was saying he could have maintained >60 MPH over the entire run. That's not the same as saying he could accelerate more at any point of the run. At that point he may not have been able to accelerate any more, but as the grade decreases (they mentioned they were at the steepest portion) they would have picked up more speed.ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.
Hmmmmm. Not sure about this. I thought RAM's aggressive downshifting was controlled entirely by T/H mode, not the mode of the exhaust brake.
I've used Full exhaust brake mode down some steep Appalachian slopes, along with T/H, and it definitely downshifts aggressively. Can't imagine Auto mode doing it any better.
Full mode will slow down the truck even when it's not accelerating. Auto mode only activates when it is accelerating, or you touch the brakes.ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.
Where in the 3500 video did you determine the Ram was not in auto mode? At 2:54 Nathan stated they were not manually shifting the Ram.
As for the Ford they did not state how many braking events there were.
Look at the gauge cluster next to the P R N D indicator. There is an exhaust brake symbol to the left of it.
If it is green with the words Auto like shown in the picture below then it is Auto mode and will automatically downshift to keep you at a certain speed just like the Ford and GM.
If is yellow like it was in the video, then it is NOT in auto mode. You press the button once to put in in regular mode(yellow) where it is better to manually shift to get the best effect, and twice to put it in auto mode(green) if you want the truck to do it all. The exhaust brake will even come on every time you press the brake pedal in auto mode if you are at the right rpms and speed to do so. Under 30 mph, it will not do it.
You are correct.
look at the 3500 video at 2:45. It does appear the exhaust brake on the RAM is in manual I missed that.
I do not understand why MR. Truck did not use the same criteria for all three trucks. But there are a lot of things I do not understand about Mr. Truck and TFL Truck and their testing.RCMAN46 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.
Where in the 3500 video did you determine the Ram was not in auto mode? At 2:54 Nathan stated they were not manually shifting the Ram.
As for the Ford they did not state how many braking events there were.
Look at the gauge cluster next to the P R N D indicator. There is an exhaust brake symbol to the left of it.
If it is green with the words Auto like shown in the picture below then it is Auto mode and will automatically downshift to keep you at a certain speed just like the Ford and GM.
If is yellow like it was in the video, then it is NOT in auto mode. You press the button once to put in in regular mode(yellow) where it is better to manually shift to get the best effect, and twice to put it in auto mode(green) if you want the truck to do it all. The exhaust brake will even come on every time you press the brake pedal in auto mode if you are at the right rpms and speed to do so. Under 30 mph, it will not do it.
Another thing about auto mode versus regular is that regular mode will kick on any time you let off the throttle. So if you are going up a road they were and you let off the throttle because you are coming up on a slow vehicle then the EB will kick in slowing you down even more. It will not do this is Auto mode unless you apply the brakes.- Omg, reading the last 10 posts, it's either the best rig ever or the most gutless turd on the planet.....btw what good is the gauntlet if you gotta limit top speed? Not much competition if you throw a lasso on the trucks. Kinda like restrictor plate racing when it started!
My question is now many discussing this have ever run 70 up to the tunnel?
(I don't mean 70 mph, I mean I 70, haha). I know y'all only drive 62 mph! Jk ShinerBock wrote:
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.
Where in the 3500 video did you determine the Ram was not in auto mode? At 2:54 Nathan stated they were not manually shifting the Ram.
As for the Ford they did not state how many braking events there were.- Nice truck! Too bad I'm out of the market because I really like the new Super Duty.
RCMAN46 wrote:
They did say at 3:11 in the 3500 video the Ram required three brake applications.
That was because they did not put the Ram in Auto mode. If they did, then it would have automatically downshifted to maintain speed just like the Ford and GM did. The Rams have two modes for its exhaust brake. Full mode for those who like to manually gear down and Auto mode for those that like the computer to do everything.- T,
Thanks for sharing the video. That's a very impressive truck. So impressive if I were to pull the trigger on one it would be just like this one.
