2017 F350 dually with 6.7 opinions

ScottG wrote:
A lot of BS being thrown around about the RAM by the usual sources - dont believe it.

LOL.

A lot of BS being thrown around about the RAM by the usual sources - dont believe it.
Like I said in my first post, check them all out and buy what you like but dont believe for one second that the RAM/Cummins is anything but reliable.

FishOnOne wrote:

The Ford 6.7 PSD and the transmission is medium duty and are used in the Ford medium duty trucks the F650 and F750. The engine is designed to perform most repairs with the cab on.

As Ron pointed out many vehicles including motorhome's get the medium duty Cummins. Just because Ford and GM put their pickup diesel in their medium duty trucks does not make it an industry medium duty engine. How many PS or Duramaxes are used in marine applications? Generators? Farm and stationary applications?

Chris

I have a 2012 F-350 DRW and get around 10.5-11 MPG towing my fiver. In town unloaded, I will get in upper 15's to low 16's MPG. On interstate unloaded will be upper 18's low 19's.

I haven't had any issues with mine, only 1 recall for a sensor, no big deal.

I agree with drive them all. I have and will probably order a new Superduty after the 1st of the year. Waiting to see the new GM product, but the new Superduty's are going to be hard to beat. The ride is great, and you don't have to let air out of the tires to try and make the ride bearable.

The 2017 Ford has upgraded their primary filter to a coalescing type of filter for improved water in diesel filtration.

The Ford 6.7 PSD and the transmission is medium duty and are used in the Ford medium duty trucks the F650 and F750. The engine is designed to perform most repairs with the cab on.

Fords powertrain warranty is 5 years/100k miles in the Super Duty and even longer in their medium duty trucks.

Most here couldn't turn a wrench to work on their 6.7 cummins electronic/sensor complicated emissions truck to save their life.

Fiat and cummins are currently sueing each other over emission problems as we speak.

Ram has been plagued by massive safety recalls this year. Quality control is questionable with this many manufacturing escapes to the customer.

The ram truck is made in mexico and is owned by the foreign company Fiat.

The Ford truck is made in the USA and is a US company.

My cousin has been a diesel tech since '93 mostly working on Fords during that time, but has been working on the rams for a few years now. At his shop theirs still more techs working in the ram shop then the Ford shop. Both shops are part of the same dealership.

My 6.7 PSD has 105k miles on it and has not seen a repair to date while others here reporting maybe pushing 30k miles at best on their 6.7 cummins.

Go test drive each one and good luck... May I suggest also test driving a Chevrolet or GMC too (Another US based company I might add).

I would go with the King of the Hill. And the ride quality is second to none.

IdaD wrote:
I wouldn't buy it because of the CP4 fuel pump. There's a reason GM moved on to a different unit in their new Dmax. Otherwise I'm sure it's a great truck. Just my opinion.

The Cummins is and feels slower and more like an old style diesel. Not a negative imo but some may disagree. I've only got 21,000 on my 2015 but I'm very happy so far.

Do you find it interesting that Cummins put the CP4.2 on their 5.0L? I wonder if the cp4 will go on the redesigned Cummins 6.7?

I wouldn't buy it because of the CP4 fuel pump. There's a reason GM moved on to a different unit in their new Dmax. Otherwise I'm sure it's a great truck. Just my opinion.

The Cummins is and feels slower and more like an old style diesel. Not a negative imo but some may disagree. I've only got 21,000 on my 2015 but I'm very happy so far.

Second Chance wrote:
You're buying a diesel DRW and worried about fuel mileage?...

Assuming a 300,000 mile truck life, a truck that gets 14 mpg vs one that gets 12 will save over 3500 gallons of fuel. Fuel economy is huge to anyone who uses their truck regularly. I'm in a town that is polluted with Ford 6.7's and I have never heard of a single problem with the CP4 pump other than the internet stories from when the pump first came out.

Just ask your self, why did GM switch to a Denso injection pump? Answer, tired of covering warranty costs on an unreliable pump. Ford still uses said pump.

Test drive both trucks with similar trim levels, be sure they both have the rear tires aired down to 35psi.

Just lift the hood on both trucks, that should help with the decision.

Cummins/Aisin are a true Medium Duty combination. Reason I say this is they both are offered on other manufactures Medium Duty applications unlike GM and Ford.

RAM has a 5 year 100K drivetrain warranty. Not sure what Ford's is now, less I think???

For sure get the factory rear air ride option with the RAM it's VERY nice.

mbrower wrote:
I guess opinion is not what I'm really looking for, power and torque are not as important to me as gas mileage and reliability.

The 6.7 gets 0 mpg on gas.