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- spoon059Explorer II
FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a new video on the Super Duty... Enjoy
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There are a LOT of awesome features in this truck. Can't help but wonder what the price will be and the reliability of these items out of warranty. - jus2shyExplorerReliability wise, I would figure that the cab portion would be well sorted. The cab itself is the same as the F-150. The unique body pieces are the frame, bed, and front fenders. Those are static parts which really shouldn't have an issue unless they pull a Toyota (tailgates). Suspension is new, but it looks to largely be an evolution of what they've had in the past.
Engine's the same basically, but I wonder if they've moved on from the CP4? So if you were comfy with the 2015+ trucks, I don't see the 2017 having any real possible "Mechanical" issues in addition to what those models had. I believe they're still going to use the 6R140 transmission which is already a stout unit. So I wouldn't be afraid to jump on a 2017. - 4x4ordExplorer III
4X4Dodger wrote:
What puzzles me about Ford since they dropped the 7.3L International engine is this:
They have had continual engine issues with their diesels and continue to change/tweak them constantly. Some years it must be said have a very bad reputation (warranted or not)
So why on earth havn't they made a deal with CAT to produce a really good engine similar to the Cummins for light duty trucks?
That CAT badge on the fender would not only look good but hark to a solid reputation for near perfect dependability.
I like Fords and even though I have a Dodge...it was because of the Cummins engine. If Ford had had a similar CAT I would possibly have bought that...or at least given it consideration.
This seems like a no-brainer marketing decision to me.
PS: And when Mack decides to make a pickup...well the big three will all be in big trouble.
I think Ford has got the pickup truck powertrain figured out. If given an opportunity to buy a new Ford with either the Cummins or Powerstroke engine I think I would choose the Powerstroke. Although if the Cummins proved to be better on fuel than the Powerstroke I might be swayed the other way. - SoCalDesertRid1Explorer II
4X4Dodger wrote:
Caterpillar got out of the on-highway truck engine market several years ago. They don't make anything that would meet any EPA/CARB requirements for on-road use in a pickup. Their engine business is focused on stationary power, ships and off-highway earthmoving vehicles. Most of their business is in other countries. Their US market is tiny, compared to what they do worldwide.
What puzzles me about Ford since they dropped the 7.3L International engine is this:
They have had continual engine issues with their diesels and continue to change/tweak them constantly. Some years it must be said have a very bad reputation (warranted or not)
So why on earth havn't they made a deal with CAT to produce a really good engine similar to the Cummins for light duty trucks?
That CAT badge on the fender would not only look good but hark to a solid reputation for near perfect dependability.
I like Fords and even though I have a Dodge...it was because of the Cummins engine. If Ford had had a similar CAT I would possibly have bought that...or at least given it consideration.
This seems like a no-brainer marketing decision to me.
PS: And when Mack decides to make a pickup...well the big three will all be in big trouble. - Swamp_ManExplorer
4x4ord wrote:
RobertRyan wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
I'm going to guess 475 HP and 930 lbft of torque and a platform that will be designed to go on from there. It's getting crazy but I like it.
Problem is torque and horsepower numbers get downgraded for the heavier F650-750 etc
That's true for good reason, but, Its much safer to put 500 HP under the hood of a little pick up truck because it will rarely make use of it. A big truck can use over 500 hp all day long.
Yep. Muscle cars in the 1960's were close to that. Would pass everything but a gas station! LOL I think so. But I would say that if they want a class 6 truck, upgrade the 650 series. I think that they have lost sight of the fact these a light/upper light duty trucks. This includes Dodge and GM. buc1980 wrote:
It looks that Ford don't change much the power drive,they work on the frame this time.
There will be an increase in power. Stay tuned!- BradWExplorer IIYep. Frame and the aluminum parts I would rather not have. :)
- buc1980ExplorerIt looks that Ford don't change much the power drive,they work on the frame this time.
- BradWExplorer IIHey, thanks for that link. Lots of good 2017 info over there.
We had planned on order a 2016, but I ******* around too long and missed the cutoff date. We plan on ordering a 2017, but I have always been a little gun shy of new models. I guess we will get our order in sometime in the Fall.
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