No, FireRob....You have convinced me to at least take a look at the Dodge. I am a Ford guy. But I have a ton of respect for Dodge and I love the motor and tranny. I actually dont mind dodge...Chevy and GMC well...I just cant do it...I am sure there are people that love them :).
In any case I appreciate all opinions here. My biggest concern is payload for whatever I get.
Pin weight is ~3k...I can see it climbing really easy once I out a washer/dryer in plus gear....so lets call it 4k to be safe.
Im 6'5 235, dog is 100lbs, wife 130, kids are 12,10,8 and 6 but me being 6'5 they are big kids and they tend to not get smaller....so lets say all passengers are 150x5+235+100 = 1085lbs
so we are at 5100 lbs.....I load most of the gear in the trailer so I guess I am good here but it gets close on a few trucks to what is listed as the max payload.
I have seen people drive overloaded (I think it looks stupid and is dangerous) I rather have a nice safety zone.
Anyways....thats sorta my biggest worry. I know any of these can tow my rig...its GVW is 16,500...
Funny that you can run out of payload alot faster than tow capacity....