patriotgrunt wrote:spoon059 wrote:patriotgrunt wrote:
If you take a look at the posts, the Ram mafia and/or other brand owners are the first to start slinging mud. Take a look at the third post. Fish simply came on here and offered his perspective after the shooting war had begun. I honestly don't know your history or even care but don't act like the Ram mafia is the virgin Mary in here.
As for the CP4 issues, again this is very over blown. It's not a prevalent of an issue as many people on this site make it out to be. In fact the same crowd always starts this argument anytime someone talks about Chevy/GMC or Ford.
You start off by attacking the "Ram Mafia", but Roy owns Fords...how is that another brand owner??? Then you tell me that I "clearly and always favor Ram" then you admit that you know NOTHING about me or my history of brand ownership. That kinda blows your ENTIRE ARGUMENT about me and about other people slinging mud out of the water. I don't see an apology, even though you appear to have completely retracted your allegations against me...
As for the CP4 issues, I have to admit that it caused me enough concern that I wasn't willing to buy a Ford 6.7 diesel at this time. From my understanding the fuel pump has been modified some and is less likely to have catastrophic failures... but time will tell. I think it is still a valid concern to bring up, until such a time that Ford shows a willingness to stand behind their customer or Bosch shows that the pump is reliable for the long term. The CP4 issues are rarely brought up in GM threads, because GM has the reputation of covering the issues under warranty.
Yes, some people brought up negative issues (bringing up established problems isn't "bashing"... it's being truthful) with the Ford... but it sure was not me. I enjoy seeing new innovations and succesfull redesigns in trucks. That means that Ford raised the bar with this redesign and everyone else will have to step up their game to stay competitive. That is great for everyone, regardless of what brand you own.
The fact is that there is always ONE PARTICULAR PERSON who takes every available opportunity to talk about Ram... even if the thread doesn't have anything to do with Ram. That immaturity and insecurity is petty, and that is what I was pointing out when you came at me. Again... I encourage you to read through some of my old posts and some of Fishies old posts, see who is the instigator.
I'm glad you are this butt hurt over my comments. However, you do see how Fish's comments can be viewed as a response to others comments? It doesn't make it better that others come on here and start placing emoticons to flame the responses.
LimogesMan wrote:
I'm with many of you that like and understand the physics behind body flex by design.
Repost from Patriot's:
Explained
spoon059 wrote:patriotgrunt wrote:
If you take a look at the posts, the Ram mafia and/or other brand owners are the first to start slinging mud. Take a look at the third post. Fish simply came on here and offered his perspective after the shooting war had begun. I honestly don't know your history or even care but don't act like the Ram mafia is the virgin Mary in here.
As for the CP4 issues, again this is very over blown. It's not a prevalent of an issue as many people on this site make it out to be. In fact the same crowd always starts this argument anytime someone talks about Chevy/GMC or Ford.
You start off by attacking the "Ram Mafia", but Roy owns Fords...how is that another brand owner??? Then you tell me that I "clearly and always favor Ram" then you admit that you know NOTHING about me or my history of brand ownership. That kinda blows your ENTIRE ARGUMENT about me and about other people slinging mud out of the water. I don't see an apology, even though you appear to have completely retracted your allegations against me...
As for the CP4 issues, I have to admit that it caused me enough concern that I wasn't willing to buy a Ford 6.7 diesel at this time. From my understanding the fuel pump has been modified some and is less likely to have catastrophic failures... but time will tell. I think it is still a valid concern to bring up, until such a time that Ford shows a willingness to stand behind their customer or Bosch shows that the pump is reliable for the long term. The CP4 issues are rarely brought up in GM threads, because GM has the reputation of covering the issues under warranty.
Yes, some people brought up negative issues (bringing up established problems isn't "bashing"... it's being truthful) with the Ford... but it sure was not me. I enjoy seeing new innovations and succesfull redesigns in trucks. That means that Ford raised the bar with this redesign and everyone else will have to step up their game to stay competitive. That is great for everyone, regardless of what brand you own.
The fact is that there is always ONE PARTICULAR PERSON who takes every available opportunity to talk about Ram... even if the thread doesn't have anything to do with Ram. That immaturity and insecurity is petty, and that is what I was pointing out when you came at me. Again... I encourage you to read through some of my old posts and some of Fishies old posts, see who is the instigator.
Turtle n Peeps wrote:I think frame flex has its advantages as explained in this video. He states it better than I can type it.
Guy's drunk.
How many times have you heard of a "damaged suspension component, a leaf spring a hanger or damage to the frame welds" on a GM or RAM truck?
How many GM or RAM frames have you ever or even heard of "crumbling irreparable frame damage" LOL A crumbling frame? Really?
So I'll ask again. GM went to a box; Ram went to a box; and now Ford is going to a box.................and they are ALL wrong? All of them? Really?
patriotgrunt wrote:
If you take a look at the posts, the Ram mafia and/or other brand owners are the first to start slinging mud. Take a look at the third post. Fish simply came on here and offered his perspective after the shooting war had begun. I honestly don't know your history or even care but don't act like the Ram mafia is the virgin Mary in here.
As for the CP4 issues, again this is very over blown. It's not a prevalent of an issue as many people on this site make it out to be. In fact the same crowd always starts this argument anytime someone talks about Chevy/GMC or Ford.
I think frame flex has its advantages as explained in this video. He states it better than I can type it.
