2017 Super duty

Mike Up wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

Mike Up wrote:
Wow, thought this was a post about a Ford not a foreign Fiat Ram.

I consider the Foreign three, Fiat/Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, last in resale, capability, and longevity.

I know of NO ONE that would buy a Ram before a Ford or a GM/Chevy. Even coworkers of Ram like to cuss them about their Rust and Unreliability.

I know for a fact Fords rust more and faster than a Dodge or even a GM!

I'm thinking MikeUp and Fishy are one in the same?!!!

And since this thread has gone there! Ford makes just as many cars/engines in other counties also!

I'm thinking Dodgey Guy and blofgren are one in the same. :E

Ford thread, not Dodge thread, but Fiat Fans will push despite. Never ever seen a Ram with a higher resale than a Ford or GM. Same with Tundra unless you live in Yuppy burbs or city where dirt under finger nails is an unknown occurrence and foreign goods are put above American goods.

Bud, this is easy. Look up prices of Ram Cummins vs Ford diesels in 2003-2010 model years. There is absolutely no comparison. Go even 2011 and 2012 model years if you like. I got stung on my 2003 F-350 6.0L diesel both in ownership costs and extremely poor resale value, and this was my third Ford so it is not like I've never owned one.

And if you think an F-150 has better reliability than a Tundra you are truly kidding yourself. You can type all the smart remarks and insults you want but facts are facts. Brand loyalty will lead you very much astray.

Duck season!

Wow, Troy introduced RAM's and Mega cabs into the thread and you guys blame the RAM owners? I think he is a Ford owner, right?

Mike Up wrote:
Wow, thought this was a post about a Ford not a foreign Fiat Ram.

I consider the Foreign three, Fiat/Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, last in resale, capability, and longevity.

I know of NO ONE that would buy a Ram before a Ford or a GM/Chevy. Even coworkers of Ram like to cuss them about their Rust and Unreliability.

I seriously disagree.

dodge guy wrote:

Mike Up wrote:
Wow, thought this was a post about a Ford not a foreign Fiat Ram.

I consider the Foreign three, Fiat/Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, last in resale, capability, and longevity.

I know of NO ONE that would buy a Ram before a Ford or a GM/Chevy. Even coworkers of Ram like to cuss them about their Rust and Unreliability.

I know for a fact Fords rust more and faster than a Dodge or even a GM!

I'm thinking MikeUp and Fishy are one in the same?!!!

And since this thread has gone there! Ford makes just as many cars/engines in other counties also!

I'm thinking Dodgey Guy and blofgren are one in the same. :E

Ford thread, not Dodge thread, but Fiat Fans will push despite. Never ever seen a Ram with a higher resale than a Ford or GM. Same with Tundra unless you live in Yuppy burbs or city where dirt under finger nails is an unknown occurrence and foreign goods are put above American goods.

Mike Up wrote:
Wow, thought this was a post about a Ford not a foreign Fiat Ram.

I consider the Foreign three, Fiat/Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, last in resale, capability, and longevity.

I know of NO ONE that would buy a Ram before a Ford or a GM/Chevy. Even coworkers of Ram like to cuss them about their Rust and Unreliability.

LOL you really need to get your head out the sand! Ram Cummins trucks have fantastic resale value and MUCH better reliability than Ford diesels over the last 15 years. And poor resale and longegevity on a Toyota? That's downright laughable; they have some of the best resale value as well and are extremely reliable long term.

FishOnOne wrote:
The guys at Trailer Life are loving the new Super Duty...

Trailer Life

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Ford is a major sponsor of that magazine would it?? ;)

dodge guy wrote:
I'll wait until they can get the paint to stick to the aluminum! In fact once they figure out how to keep a 5 year old vehicle from rotting away then I may consider spending $70k+. Until then, I'll stick with my 14 year old Excursion, that doesn't have the potential of having major engine issues!

And BTW, when the time comes I'll go to a Ram Mega Cab!

You will love the Megacab! I've had more compliments on this truck than any other vehicle I've owned.

Mike Up wrote:
Wow, thought this was a post about a Ford not a foreign Fiat Ram.

I consider the Foreign three, Fiat/Ram, Toyota, and Nissan, last in resale, capability, and longevity.

I know of NO ONE that would buy a Ram before a Ford or a GM/Chevy. Even coworkers of Ram like to cuss them about their Rust and Unreliability.

I know for a fact Fords rust more and faster than a Dodge or even a GM!

I'm thinking MikeUp and Fishy are one in the same?!!!

And since this thread has gone there! Ford makes just as many cars/engines in other counties also!

JAC1982 wrote:
Biggest issue with the new Super Dutys is the pricetag. Ouch. Our neighbor had a reservation on one at something like $70,000. He ended up cancelling it and bought a Ram instead.

Price is actually cheaper than previous truck. The F150 is what went up in price.

My F150 MSRP is $46845 and the a new F250 with the exact same options but 6.2L V8 instead of 5.0L V8, and Tow mirrors instead of standard mirrors. The new F250 is $47690. A 2017 F150 will likely go up to match or exceed the F250 price. The F250 is a bargain compared with pricing of all 1/2 ton and HD duty trucks. It's a first year model so I'd likely wait until 2018 to buy though.

New F250 has an additional 1000 lbs of payload and 1500 lbs of tow capacity over my F150.

I didn't go with the '16 F250 based entirely on fuel mileage of the F250 at 12 mpg mixed opposed to my F150 18.5 - 19.0 mpg mixed mileage. Since I commute to work with my truck, mileage was a big reason to stick with the new F150. With 10,900 lbs of towing and 1890 lbs of payload, it worked good for my rving needs.