2018 Safety ratings pickups

I just learned a new word! :)

bikendan wrote:
how could they include a Ridgeline in a Large Truck category?:S

it's a Pilot with a pickup bed, not even a real truck, let alone a Large Truck.

It's all part of the dumbing down and vaganizing of this Country!

Pilot’s and Ridgeline’s are both derived from the Honda Odyessey platform. And all are NOT a full sized van or CUV or pickup...Honda lists them as “mini” or “sub” or “mid”...

Both CUV’s have addition of a small frame to buttress the Odyessy Monocoque. I bought a used Odyssey and can attest to how stiff the Monocoque with 7 adults & luggage on board is running on rough dirt roads (elderly and did not want to get in my Suburban to a church picnic)

*ALL* have similar GVWR & RGAWR. Around 6,000 lb GVWR and around 3,200 lb RGARW....vs...lowest full sized pickups 6K-7K GVWR and +4K RGAWR. These are the things most important to me...but...know am in the vast minority...as most only look at marketing nomenclature and payload (lost to them is that since lower class...they weigh less, therefore has higher payload due to that fact)

On the headlamp...that is the North American attempt at European E-Code headlamps.

That line between darkness vs light is called the “cut off” and is the desired metric to NOT blind with a constant light to the eyes

As for the comment of on coming E-Code cutoff bounce...think they are not adjusted to code. In California, it is 2 inches down below level for each 25 feet forward, IIRC.

JIMNLIN wrote:
I see they gave the 1500 Silverado a poor headlight rating which I agree with. The wife '16 1500 chevy LT package has the worst headlights , in dim position, of any truck or car I've owned. Down right dangerous when the road goes black 75' in front of the truck when the truck comes to a hill (county roads) which is a big common issues with certain GM headlite systems on the chevy and jimmy. Everything above a horizontal line has no lighting..its just black. I see other new gen GM trucks coming at me at nite...it looks like their flashing their bright lights when their truck goes over a hump or slight dip in the road.

That's the only fault I have found with my 15 GMC 2500, projection lights and it's not the bottom trim either but the level 2 SLE, just about everything but leather. They suck.

The dealer replaced the bulbs and reprogrammed to increase voltage per a TSB which made them much better, but still a bad design.

I see they gave the 1500 Silverado a poor headlight rating which I agree with. The wife '16 1500 chevy LT package has the worst headlights , in dim position, of any truck or car I've owned. Down right dangerous when the road goes black 75' in front of the truck when the truck comes to a hill (county roads) which is a big common issues with certain GM headlite systems on the chevy and jimmy. Everything above a horizontal line has no lighting..its just black. I see other new gen GM trucks coming at me at nite...it looks like their flashing their bright lights when their truck goes over a hump or slight dip in the road.

SoundGuy wrote:

bikendan wrote:
how could they include a Ridgeline in a Large Truck category?:S

it's a Pilot with a pickup bed, not even a real truck, let alone a Large Truck.

Forum member Last Train who tows with a Ridgeline certainly would disagree that his truck is "a Pilot with a pickup bed". In another thread about the Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS he reprimanded me when I inadvertently referred to his TV as a Pilot rather than a Ridgeline -

"Our 2016 192 RBS has been one of the best “investments” we’ve ever made in our lifestyle. I’ll generally support what SoundGuy has said with one major exception. Our tow vehicle is a 2011 Honda Ridgeline - not a Pilot. I mention that partly because the Ridgeline, though a midsize pickup, it actually behaves more similarly to a 1/2 ton. The Ridgeline was built to be a very flexible and capable sport utility truck. It only shares about 30% of its parts with the Pilot. The Ridgeline has a much stiffer ladder frame and suspension components more robust than the Pilot. Lots of other differences, but the key point is that we feel very satisfied with the matchup of our trailer and the Ridgeline. It is very stable and solid as can be when towing this rig. No offense to any Pilot owners, but I don’t think I would be as comfortable towing this size rig with a Pilot, since its DNA is SUV - not truck. "

HERE IS about 172 pages of interesting reading to say the least. I think the bragging right for some is who can overload the most. And I'm not directing this at Night Train, or Last Train. Night Train is cheap wine LOL

amxpress wrote:
With all due respect to Honda, many people don’t consider a front wheel drive, unibody constructed vehicle with a 3500# towing capacity a “real” truck. It is a quality built vehicle, though.

Did they lower the tow rating with the redesign?? DD had a 2006 that had a 5,000# tow rating. I know from experience that it would tow that with a full load in the Ridgeline!
We towed the large U-Haul tandem axle box trailer loaded to 4,800#, three adults, two large dogs. Portland, OR to Bolder, CO. Toughest spot in the Blue Mts in Eastern Oregon pulled down to about 45 to 50 on that on climb.

bikendan wrote:
how could they include a Ridgeline in a Large Truck category?:S

it's a Pilot with a pickup bed, not even a real truck, let alone a Large Truck.

Forum member Last Train who tows with a Ridgeline certainly would disagree that his truck is "a Pilot with a pickup bed". In another thread about the Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS he reprimanded me when I inadvertently referred to his TV as a Pilot rather than a Ridgeline -

"Our 2016 192 RBS has been one of the best “investments” we’ve ever made in our lifestyle. I’ll generally support what SoundGuy has said with one major exception. Our tow vehicle is a 2011 Honda Ridgeline - not a Pilot. I mention that partly because the Ridgeline, though a midsize pickup, it actually behaves more similarly to a 1/2 ton. The Ridgeline was built to be a very flexible and capable sport utility truck. It only shares about 30% of its parts with the Pilot. The Ridgeline has a much stiffer ladder frame and suspension components more robust than the Pilot. Lots of other differences, but the key point is that we feel very satisfied with the matchup of our trailer and the Ridgeline. It is very stable and solid as can be when towing this rig. No offense to any Pilot owners, but I don’t think I would be as comfortable towing this size rig with a Pilot, since its DNA is SUV - not truck. "

how could they include a Ridgeline in a Large Truck category?:S

it's a Pilot with a pickup bed, not even a real truck, let alone a Large Truck.

ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
:) Hi, what am I missing? Headlights failed? Were the headlights still supposed to work after being smashed?

For the Ford, they tested the halogen lights. Don't understand why they didn't test the LED's.The lights were tested for distance, spread.