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- I don't recall ever looking into what is required to obtain fleet pricing for GM but I can meet the requirements for Ford and Ram. When I bought a pair of 2016 Ford Platinums as well as when purchasing our 2017 Platinums we got our best price buying on the retail side. I got a fleet price quote on a 2017 Ram Laramie Limited and it was a about $2500 less than Ford's best price.... which was retail. I find that the big difference between fleet and retail pricing is you get a quote and you have your price with fleet where as retail you have to play the game to get your best price.
- Well we can only speculate how the dollars work. It has been like this for a quite awhile. I can only assume this business model makes sense for them, they certainly wouldn't do it if it didn't. They are in this business to maximize money. I wish I had fleet number that I am positive of. Could save a lot money.
I would say that there is a difference between fleet sales and fleet sales to Gov., municipalities and so forth. There is very little money in Gov. sales. Like less than $50.00 to the dealer. Here in Idaho there is what is called a State bid. Other public entities can buy on the State bid (negotiated price). To give an idea of how cheap these are, one county near me buys a new Duramax Crew Cab every year. They buy this LT duramax crew cab 4X4 for about 45K. They drive it for a year and trade it in. The trade in value is higher than the cost of the next years Duramax. So the dealer PAYS them for their trade. How much depends of course on the amount of miles and condition but because the Gov price is so low they can continue to drive new pickups and get paid to do it. Taxpayers are happy, the County is happy and of course the dealer has a low mileage trade that they can make money on. Pretty sweet deal for all involved.
The regular fleet sales to businesses like I said are reduced by 5K or so (seems to fluctuate) off the sale of a 70K pickup. So there is a considerable difference between different types of fleet sales. ksss wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
ksss wrote:
Nice to hear the mirrors extend electronically. Talked to my commercial salesman today (Chevy), and was told that if you have a fleet number you can order the new trucks next month and will see them around June. Not sure on the GMC version. Fleet ordered vehicles will be fill first, beyond any floor ordered pickups, those would start hitting the ground in August.
Not doubting you, but that just seems backward. Fleet sales are so much less profitable than retail.
They are, I don't have a Fleet number, but if I did I could save significant money (5500 last time I checked). You need something like 15 gm vehicles in your fleet and some other qualifications. So if you have a fleet number you are buying a lot of vehicles. So while fleet number vehicles are sold for less, these customers buy a lot of GM vehicles. So I believe that by keeping these customers happy, they are moving more vehicles, less for each one verse the regular consumer, but it must pencil out for them.
Again, not doubting you, but it seems like a poor business decision. I have a family member that was a zone fleet manager for a manufacture. He worked with customers that all had 10 or more vehicles in their fleet (didn't matter if they were his or a competitor).
The manufactures certainly move more vehicles that way. But the overall margin is considerably less, and the vehicles that fleet buys are almost universally low trim level vehicles. Think rental cars (one of the biggest customers), oil fields, mines, field sales, etc. The managers of those companies might order one moderately optioned vehicle for every 20 stripped models they buy.
Biggest profits are to retail customers who are willing to buy LongHorn/Limited/Platinum/Denali/High Country trims.
Several manufactures have made concerted efforts to reduce fleet sales because of this. GM is going the opposite direction. Doesn't make sense.FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a good video from Big Truck Big RV. These GMC trucks look to be a jewel.
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Looks like another dump Space Shuttle tow commercial.Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
VERY nice looking truck! Interior is still not to the Limited/LongHorn level IMHO.
Hey doubters, why are they suddenly able to tow in excess of 30k all of a sudden as I predicted they would???
ONE simple reason, maybe two.
This would be my second choice for a new Dually.
I consider my truck to have a very nice interior but I don't really pay attention to it. My truck is a tool and function, convenience and reliability are more important to me.
I bought the basic transportation for at least 1,000,000 miles of commuting. All that HARD work paid off. I quit when I was 54. I love the LongHorn amenities. Time to enjoy life with luxury and dependability. 4 years and 64k I am more than satisfied with my purchase.
Said another way my wife's vehicle has a nicer interior than my truck, but I prefer to drive my truck when we go somewhere. I just don't pay attention to the interior cosmetics anymore, but that's me.Bionic Man wrote:
ksss wrote:
Nice to hear the mirrors extend electronically. Talked to my commercial salesman today (Chevy), and was told that if you have a fleet number you can order the new trucks next month and will see them around June. Not sure on the GMC version. Fleet ordered vehicles will be fill first, beyond any floor ordered pickups, those would start hitting the ground in August.
Not doubting you, but that just seems backward. Fleet sales are so much less profitable than retail.
They are, I don't have a Fleet number, but if I did I could save significant money (5500 last time I checked). You need something like 15 gm vehicles in your fleet and some other qualifications. So if you have a fleet number you are buying a lot of vehicles. So while fleet number vehicles are sold for less, these customers buy a lot of GM vehicles. So I believe that by keeping these customers happy, they are moving more vehicles, less for each one verse the regular consumer, but it must pencil out for them.- Let’s all be honest. It’s a great time to buy a great tow vehicle.
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
VERY nice looking truck! Interior is still not to the Limited/LongHorn level IMHO.
Hey doubters, why are they suddenly able to tow in excess of 30k all of a sudden as I predicted they would???
ONE simple reason, maybe two.
This would be my second choice for a new Dually.
I consider my truck to have a very nice interior but I don't really pay attention to it. My truck is a tool and function, convenience and reliability are more important to me.
I bought the basic transportation for at least 1,000,000 miles of commuting. All that HARD work paid off. I quit when I was 54. I love the LongHorn amenities. Time to enjoy life with luxury and dependability. 4 years and 64k I am more than satisfied with my purchase.ksss wrote:
Nice to hear the mirrors extend electronically. Talked to my commercial salesman today (Chevy), and was told that if you have a fleet number you can order the new trucks next month and will see them around June. Not sure on the GMC version. Fleet ordered vehicles will be fill first, beyond any floor ordered pickups, those would start hitting the ground in August.
Not doubting you, but that just seems backward. Fleet sales are so much less profitable than retail.
