2020 GM/Chevy gas 6.6L max towing test

ShinerBock wrote:

ls1mike wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

ls1mike wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

ls1mike wrote:
I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph.

We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine.

10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway.

It is not just about 3 and half minutes. That was just one up hill section of many of having to hear an engine whine at 5k which gets tiring. It is also about having the power to spare when you need to pass. I used to think the same way you did until my old 4.6L F150. It was "just enough" until I was stuck behind a semi truck for what seemed like forever on a two lane road doing less than 45 mph because I did not have power to pass him when a passing lane opened. I would rather arrive at camp refreshed than with my nerves shot.

Also, a diesel does not cost $15k so I am not sure where you are getting that number from. If you count the fuel savings and resale/trade-in value, the difference is less than a few grand and in some cases like mine it is in the diesel's favor. If I traded my truck in today going by local trade-in value, the 6.4L gas version my truck would have cost me over $500 more accounting for fuel cost, preventative maintenance cost, taxes, interest, registration, and resale/trade-in value. My truck would be more expensive than the 5.7L version by a grand.

Certainly is 10 to 15000 dollars more here in Washington state. Place I picked up my truck had two new trucks on the lot. One diesel one gasser, same options 12,000 dollars difference.
You might not like the sound of 5k doesn't mean it isn't doing what it is supposed to. Again. Right tool for the job, you don't need diesel to lug around 7000 to 10000lbs, 16000 sure.
Like I said if you are running the Ike everyday or daily driving you will want the diesel. No one in there right mind is going to buy a gasser to pull 16,000lbs regularly.

Yeah, but calculate total cost of ownership with a release/trade-in value at the end of 100k or 150k like I did below. You will find that even if you don't tow at all, the difference in cost is nowhere near that.

I'm interested in your truck prices, oil changes, fuel filter changes and various other fixes. Doesn't change the fact the overall purchase price is cheaper. Everyone's fuel mileage and maintenance varies.

Trucks prices are based on my trucks MSRP and the other trucks MSRP were minus the difference in the diesel option. I confirmed them when I went to build a truck on Ram's website. Oil and fuel filter changes on a Cummins are every 15k no matter what so that doesn't change and it comes with a 100k mile engine warranty. Over all price isn't cheaper as you can see in my chart(unless you are referring to up front price?). The mileage is an average of over a million miles and hundreds of members posting to Fuelly.com. Yeah, one would probably be able to get better or worse fuel mileage depending on their driving style, but it would better or worse than average regardless of what engine you are using since it is your driving style that is making the difference so it makes that argument a moot point.

Your argument may be valid for GM gassers versus diesels, but not all diesels. You would only have yourself to blame in that case for narrowing yourself to one brand.

I don't disagree with your last statement, and yes I talking about initial purchase price.