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  • ls1mike wrote:
    I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph.

    We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine.

    10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway.


    It is not just about 3 and half minutes. That was just one up hill section of many of having to hear an engine whine at 5k which gets tiring. It is also about having the power to spare when you need to pass. I used to think the same way you did until my old 4.6L F150. It was "just enough" until I was stuck behind a semi truck for what seemed like forever on a two lane road doing less than 45 mph because I did not have power to pass him when a passing lane opened. I would rather arrive at camp refreshed than with my nerves shot.

    Also, a diesel does not cost $15k so I am not sure where you are getting that number from. If you count the fuel savings and resale/trade-in value, the difference is less than a few grand and in some cases like mine it is in the diesel's favor. If I traded my truck in today going by local trade-in value, the 6.4L gas version my truck would have cost me over $500 more accounting for fuel cost, preventative maintenance cost, taxes, interest, registration, and resale/trade-in value. My truck would be more expensive than the 5.7L version by a grand.
  • Spoken like a flat lander. I live in Southern Az and travel all over the inter mountain west - just got back from the Bighorns in Wy. Heck even north of Phoenix going up to flagstaff is going to really hurt with a gas motor. If you have the money to RV then get a diesel.
  • ls1mike wrote:
    I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph.

    We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine.

    10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway.


    Usage is always the unspoken differentiator in these conversations. The 'weekend warrior' is very different than the full-timer who cross-crosses the mountain west or the contractor who hauls a front-loader to and from work-sites every day.

    Like you, we are in the first of these, and even if we upgraded from our current trailer to a FW, it would be hard to justify a diesel unless it was so big that a gasser simply couldn't handle it.
  • Have to believe the Ford will blow this one away, maybe not on fuel economy, but if the claims on width of torque range are true, and the supposed tranny improvements for 2020, the 7.3 should not even be close.
    Will be interesting to see this done as a shootout in a few months.
  • I can't believe people stressing over 3 and a half minutes. I towed all over with an 89 1 ton Big Block Chevy TBI for years and at times was down to 12mph.

    We are talking the IKE. For someone like me who tows 7500 to 8000 lbs 15 to 20 times year and won't daily drive a truck this thing would work just fine.

    10,000 to 15,000 dollars is not worth 3 and a half minutes to me. Lets be realistic, anyone who tows 16,000 lbs up and down the IKE on the regular is not buying a gasser anyway.
  • Pretty disappointed. Personally, there is nothing positive about that truck for me.
  • Dang, 11 minutes and 54 seconds to do what it took the diesel 8 minutes and 24 seconds. I don't think I could handle slowing all the way down to 25 mph. That is why any money spent on the diesel option is well worth it for me(even though it generally pay for itself on resale). My nerves would be shot going that slow.
  • Ike and Mike..lol Sort of like Mutt and Jeff or Buster Brown and Tide.