2021 Ford Bronco

mich800 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's some comparisons of the Bronco vs the Jeep. Also Jeep advertised hinting with adding a 392 Hemi to the engine list.

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I am thinking a very expensive option. But...they are out there testing in plain sight. No camo. So unless you are close enough to hear or are observant enough to notice the dual rear exit exhaust it's just a Wrangler.

I can't help but wonder if the Jeep will have enough radiator to cool that V8.

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's some comparisons of the Bronco vs the Jeep. Also Jeep advertised hinting with adding a 392 Hemi to the engine list.

Link

I am thinking a very expensive option. But...they are out there testing in plain sight. No camo. So unless you are close enough to hear or are observant enough to notice the dual rear exit exhaust it's just a Wrangler.

ShinerBock wrote:
I implore anyone to go rent a Miata for a day to see what I am talking. You can really have fun driving the car while still maintaining safe speeds. That is if you are one that likes to be more engaged in the driving experience with the engine noise, manual gear changes, the feeling that you are going faster, and so on. If you are one that wants the computer to do everything and just want to get to point A to B as quick as possible then it may not be for you. Adversely having fun in a higher powered sports means driving it very dangerously at too high of speeds for public roads.

I fully agree. I'm one of those "you name it, I've owned it" kind of guys (for the most part), and the most fun I've ever had driving over the years was in 2-passenger, soft-top little roadsters of various makes.

I implore anyone to go rent a Miata for a day to see what I am talking about. You can really have fun driving the car while still maintaining safe speeds. That is if you are one that likes to be more engaged in the driving experience with the engine noise, manual gear changes, the feeling that you are going faster, and so on. If you are one that wants the computer to do everything and just want to get to point A to B as quick as possible then it may not be for you. Adversely having fun in a higher powered sports car means driving it very dangerously at too high of speeds for public roads.

mich800 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
There is an old saying that I didn't know it was true until I drove a friends Miata. "It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I had more fun driving that thing than I did my Vette that I had at the time. Of course I missed my Vette at the stop lights, but that Miata was like a little go cart on the road.

Naw, I don't buy that. Or why do so many opt for the big diesel turbo?

Slow cars are just that, slow.

I think that may have been in jest. But that is not an absolute rule. At least with some of the tight tracks around here. A ton of HP just gets in the way and the lighter, better balanced cars are faster around the circuit.

Bingo!


Also, to tim2roll, a truck is made to safely, reliably, and efficiently tow/haul heavy loads from point A to point B in a timely manner. A sports car is made for going fast around a track.

mich800 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
There is an old saying that I didn't know it was true until I drove a friends Miata. "It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I had more fun driving that thing than I did my Vette that I had at the time. Of course I missed my Vette at the stop lights, but that Miata was like a little go cart on the road.

Naw, I don't buy that. Or why do so many opt for the big diesel turbo?

Slow cars are just that, slow.

I think that may have been in jest. But that is not an absolute rule. At least with some of the tight tracks around here. A ton of HP just gets in the way and the lighter, better balanced cars are faster around the circuit.

If you just want to have fun that can be true as long as the car feels fast. I remember driving a friends MG around 1982. The top was down and my rear felt like it was dragging the ground as I pulled out onto the road. I wound out first and second to the redline, slammed third, the engine was screaming, the wind was howling, my hair was getting tossed around and it felt like I was almost flying. I looked down at the speedometer at showed 45mph. It occurred to me that if I was in my Impala I would probably be doing about 60 and more concerned about what was on the radio than how fast I was going.

That day I learned that the sensation of speed is more about the sensation than the speed. If you don't believe go take a gocart ride. If you are trying to get somewhere then a slow car can be really frustrating. Then again, if you are having a lot of fun on a public road you are probably driving dangerously.

time2roll wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
There is an old saying that I didn't know it was true until I drove a friends Miata. "It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I had more fun driving that thing than I did my Vette that I had at the time. Of course I missed my Vette at the stop lights, but that Miata was like a little go cart on the road.

Naw, I don't buy that. Or why do so many opt for the big diesel turbo?

Slow cars are just that, slow.

I think that may have been in jest. But that is not an absolute rule. At least with some of the tight tracks around here. A ton of HP just gets in the way and the lighter, better balanced cars are faster around the circuit.

A1ARealtorRick wrote:
Nice rugged vehicle, but the unanswerable question at this point is- just how many of the new Broncos will EVER be driven off-road? Much like any other SUV, regardless of their actual capabilities, very very few ever see anything other than pavement under their tires. Just an observation.

The beauty about that, is without gleaming mall crawlers, there won't be abundant used vehicles in good condition for enthusiasts to built on.

Remember, at one point, TJ/JKs, 80/100 Series, 3rd gen 4runners, LR3/4s, etc., were all street queens. Just like the modern JL / 200 Series and upcoming Bronco.

ShinerBock wrote:
There is an old saying that I didn't know it was true until I drove a friends Miata. "It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I had more fun driving that thing than I did my Vette that I had at the time. Of course I missed my Vette at the stop lights, but that Miata was like a little go cart on the road.

Naw, I don't buy that. Or why do so many opt for the big diesel turbo?

Slow cars are just that, slow.

mich800 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

mich800 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:
Nice rugged vehicle, but the unanswerable question at this point is- just how many of the new Broncos will EVER be driven off-road? Much like any other SUV, regardless of their actual capabilities, very very few ever see anything other than pavement under their tires. Just an observation.

At least the same percentage as the Wrangler which is its direct competition. No different really than the pickup market. There is a reason the tonneau cover is such a popular option. Need to keep them groceries dry. :B

And the same can be said of all those muscle/sports cars that never see a track.

True. But I have a blast going 0-60 everywhere I go. Another reason I prefer the manual. If you need to stay within legal, may as well enjoy actively driving.

There is an old saying that I didn't know it was true until I drove a friends Miata. "It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow." I had more fun driving that thing than I did my Vette that I had at the time. Of course I missed my Vette at the stop lights, but that Miata was like a little go cart on the road.