Looked at this unit Keystone Outback Terrain today at Flagg RV in Uxbridge MA. Until this rear bed slide unit we have been looking at queen bed/ bunks and dinette slide units under 28' We also looked at the North Trail 240BHS today. Overall the family and I like the Terrain best from all the units we have looked at so far. The wife really likes it and said she was good with buying this model if it's what I want. Interior roominess and storage is better than anything in this length camper we have seen. Having the queen bed and dinette slides really opens up the floor space. My concerns are:- Very limited outside storage and that alone may be a deal killer. Not sure where we put all the outside stuff? Only outside storage is in the back behind the spare tire and it's not very deep. Anyone have any ideas how to get past this issue please respond.- There is no outside vent for the stove hood, only a charcoal filter. This is strange to me as we use our stove vent all the time. There is a roof vent in the kitchen area and maybe adding a fan in the vent will work?- Construction quality compared to the North Trail was lacking in areas. The sidewalls, ceiling etc are rock solid in the North Trail but the Terrain has a bunch of flex and vibration when I bang on it. Seems like Keystone cut some corners since they separated these units from the Outback lineup. - DD #1 does not like the fact there is no window in the bottom bunk. The bike door is there but no window. I believe(not sure)The Outback version had a window in the bike door. Top bunk has a window.- Dump drain/valves are up near the front so we would be using 20' or more of hose at most sites. - You can tell this particular unit was towed in the winter salt as there is a ton of rust and corrosion on the under carriage, suspension etc. Need to avoid a unit with this issue if possible!!!!!Please respond with opinions or suggestions.

Looked at this unit awhile back, liked the beds but did not pass the bathroom test, it was too small for me once the door was closed. Dump values are bot a big deal, I use 20 feet at most sites sometimes 30 but you can park differently to deal with that. You can install a tube of those storage. Some outside things can be placed on the floor just inside the door so the come out first and go in last. Many Keystones don't vent outside not an issue for us as we cook outside. Good luck with whatever your choice is.

I just purchased an Outback Terrain 260trs, so I can't comment specifically on the 250...I looked into one, but the 260 fit our needs better. 1. Outside storage is an issue on my unit as well, although I have a small pass thru storage in the front of my unit, the opening is small though so it won't fit much. With the bicycle storage on your unit however that opens up a huge area for storage while traveling. Another option is to install a rear bumper rack for coolers ect, or a roof mounted storage container for the tow vehicle. This was possibly the biggest downside of my unit as well. 2. The vent outside isn't a huge deal for me, as I do almost all my cooking outside. The charcoal filter will work fairly well, and as with your unit, mine also has an outside vent near the kitchen. I wouldn't worry too much myself. 3.I have no issues with the construction of my unit so far, but as with most ultra lites, there are some corners cut. I notice then on my unit as well, but overall I would rate the Terrains better than most other ultra Lite units I've been in. 4. The no window in the bunk, nothing you can do there unless you cut a hole in the door and put your own window in. 5. My dump is near the rear, but I think realistically every campsite is different and some will be better than others. Have an extension ready if need be. Another unit we considered with a Passport 2400bh. With the optional upgraded exterior (Grey as opposed to white fiberglass) it was a great unit, but the Outback had so much more seating, and features it was no brainer for me. What really sold us was the uniqueness of the Outback Terrains. Every other unit we looked at has bunks in the rear, a dinette and couch in the slide, and a queen bed up front. Every. Single. One. Seeing something different was refreshing. Another forum member "Cotay" (he has a 250trs) helped me decide on mine, and I hope I can do the same for you. Outbackers.com has some useful insight as well. All your concerns are valid, but I think every TT is somewhat of a rolling compromise... All will have their pros and cons. For us, the Outback Terrain just had the most pros. If you do get it, I promise you'll be happy with one.

I just bought a 210TRS (last week). I had the same concerns about the storage. I plan to put a pipe under the bumper for the black hose. And then use the rest of the outside storage for power cords and leveling stuff. I have a fairly large area under the kitchenette seats that I can also use for things I would not be using a lot. And as mentioned, the bicycle storage door and the lower bunk area could hold a lot of things too. However, I have not made a trip with it yet, so maybe things will change... :S :B

n8wgb wrote: the bicycle storage door and the lower bunk area could hold a lot of things too. However, I have not made a trip with it yet, so maybe things will change... :S :Bbut with two DDs would need both bunks.bumpy

I currently have a trailer similar to this without the dinette slide. It works well for us. Something to think of with the rear slide is that there is no wardrobe for the adults. We keep our suitcase under the lower bunk in the front and live out of that. For exterior storage we use the pack and play door and load our things under the bunk. It surprising how much space there is under there. If you fold up the lower bunk you can put bikes in there. I try to keep the bunk down so it's ready if we need to stop overnight, we don't have to take anything out to use the lower bunk.

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Cotay
Explorer
Mar 27, 2014
Gaffer222 wrote:
OK so the deal is done and the order has been placed. Thanks for everyone's input/help.

So now what extras do I need to add on. Here is my list so far.

- Dinette slide awning
- Rear bed slide awning - Is this possible?
- Fan/cover in/on the Kitchen vent. Comes with just a vent-no fan
- Cover on the bathroom vent
- New Equal-i-zer hitch, I think the 1k/10k model? I have the 600lb/6K unit on my existing HTT but I don't think that is big enough

Excellent! I'm very fond of the Outback Terrains, I think you will be too. You can get awnings for both slides...check Camping World for different sizes. I am still debating that mod. As for the hitch, definitely get the 1K/10K bars...I had to do the same thing when I got mine.
Speedogomer
Explorer
Mar 27, 2014
I'd say that price is a win! Like I said before, my dealer had my unit and the 250trs prices within $200 of each other.... And you got your 250trs within $200 of what I paid for my unit.

As for extras... I think it's something you feel as you go. I'd upgrade your hitch to the 1k/10k hitch to be within its limits. A fan for the kitchen ceiling vent is an easy upgrade as well.

Other than that, get the trailer and feel it out. You may find it works better than expected as is... You may also find more you need.
Gaffer222
Explorer
Mar 26, 2014
Goldstalker wrote:
So how did you do compared to the wholesalers?

$22482 vs. $21,000 in Ohio. Would have cost about the difference for shipping so I feel that I received a good/fair deal. This was the closest dealer to us(about an hour drive) so that works out well. Never dealt with them but have read some good things about them. Time will tell. Other "local" dealer farther away was at $23,500 and just called me back checking if we could make the deal. Could not get any extras thrown in and I tried every trick in the book.
Goldstalker
Explorer
Mar 26, 2014
So how did you do compared to the wholesalers?
Gaffer222
Explorer
Mar 26, 2014
OK so the deal is done and the order has been placed. Thanks for everyone's input/help.

So now what extras do I need to add on. Here is my list so far.

- Dinette slide awning
- Rear bed slide awning - Is this possible?
- Fan/cover in/on the Kitchen vent. Comes with just a vent-no fan
- Cover on the bathroom vent
- New Equal-i-zer hitch, I think the 1k/10k model? I have the 600lb/6K unit on my existing HTT but I don't think that is big enough
Cotay
Explorer
Mar 25, 2014
I've seen some pretty good prices at www.wanarv.com. They will give you a quote with shipping that makes their prices very competitive. Last year I asked them to price a Roo 17 with shipping and the cost to ship was about $4k to the West Coast. If you are closer, and they have a TT that you like, they are a good option.
Speedogomer
Explorer
Mar 25, 2014
That price may be without shipping costs, which can be more expensive than you think. Add another thousand or so, even if you plan on getting it yourself, between fuel and travel expenses.

It is a great price though.
n8wgb
Explorer
Mar 25, 2014
If the dealer you were talking to in Michigan was Lakeshore RV, they were the cheapest I could find in my area too. Nobody else would come close to their price, so I ended up buying from them. I'm close enough to go there and talk to them, and I'll pick it up myself(about 3 hours away). There is also a dealer near Cleveland who was about as low of a price, but I seemed to connect with the Lakeshore salesman better. Both were about the same distance from me.
Cotay
Explorer
Mar 24, 2014
If you can wait and sell your TT yourself, you will certainly receive more. Our HTT was only 9 months off the dealer's lot and had been used only a handful of times. I knew I was getting hosed on the trade, but I simply don't have the time to deal with the process of selling it myself. We entertained selling it on a consignment lot, but I heard horror stories about the one here locally. So in the end, we decided that we made the decision that was best for us. However, sometimes late at night the $6K still smarts a bit. :-)
Gaffer222
Explorer
Mar 24, 2014
Cotay wrote:
Gaffer222 wrote:
Thanks for all the info. I received two separate wholesaler internet prices of just under $21,000. With this info and yours I have a good idea of where I should be. Need to see if they will throw in some extras.

That is an excellent price. Here on the West Coast the prices are a bit higher. We got our 250TRS for just under $25K. Sadly, we also took a large bath on our HTT to the tune of $6K. You are right to do your homework now...you will avoid the expensive mistake that we made.

I don't know if I can get it for $21,000 locally but those were prices from Ohio and Michigan. I have to weigh travel or shipping costs. I'm curious as to what they will offer for my trade. I may have to sell the HTT on my own. My HTT is in great shape so I think it would sell quick this time of the year.

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