ShinerBock wrote:NC Hauler wrote:
RAWR on my truck by Ram is 9750#, per AAM it's 11,500#.. GCWR on my truck is 37,500#, I weigh the combo,which is bar less than that and that# will be on my registration, right now it's licensed for 28K.
The 11,500 lbs AAM rates your axle is the axle itself. The 9,750 lbs Ram rates your axle is the axle system which includes suspension and tires.
ShinerBock wrote:NC Hauler wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.
This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.
RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.
In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)
Why on earth would one even think I am talking about a DRW when comparing a 3500 and a 2500? Do I really have to make that clarification here?
ShinerBock wrote:NC Hauler wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.
This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.
RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.
In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)
Why on earth would one even think I am talking about a DRW when comparing a 3500 and a 2500? Do I really have to make that clarification here?
NC Hauler wrote:
RAWR on my truck by Ram is 9750#, per AAM it's 11,500#.. GCWR on my truck is 37,500#, I weigh the combo,which is bar less than that and that# will be on my registration, right now it's licensed for 28K.
NC Hauler wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.
This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.
RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.
In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Bottom line when towing a 5th wheel there will be very little weight added to the front suspension. Example my hitch is set full forward and I only add about maybe 150# to the front axle. So do the math weigh a 2500's rear axle add 600# to that number for toolbox and hitch, now subtract that number from what the max weight the two rear tires can carry at max inflation. Take 25% of the RV's GVWR add that number to what the theoretical weight of the rear axle should weigh. Are you more or less than what the tires can carry?
IdaD wrote:NC Hauler wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.
This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.
RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.
In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)
I'm not sure what the DRWs are offhand. SRW is 6500 in the 2500 and 7000 in the 3500.
SB is correct that the SRW versions are identical aside from the rear spring setup. The coils are rated to carry up to about 3300 lbs in the 6.4 version of the Ram, so they're definitely stouter than the official payload rating would indicate.
As far as how much the trucks can haul, that's up to the owner I guess. I personally put a lot more stock in the axle ratings than I do the payload rating, given the reason for the payload rating and common sense about the truck itself.
