28,500 lbs Ford vs Ram 1 ton DRW

Huntindog wrote:

You keep saying it is only about the money...
Money is important, of course.

But if that were SAEs only motive, then why has the ford which is NOT certified, been spanked by GM over the years with a motor that IS certified with less power than the ford?

While I would say Ford has been "spanked by GM over the years" since it has been a back and fourth over the years depending on what testing you want to go by because there are many variables(like trans gearing, torque converter stall, drivetrain efficiency) besides engine power that can make each truck great at one test while crappy at another. there is also things such as programming to defuel or detune an engine to stay with in emissions or safe temps. Heck, there have been some Ike tests where the Duramax was bested by the Cummins that made less power.

But as I said only fan boys care about such things so they can pound their chest in forums like these. Most don't care as long as the truck pulls the load like they want or will add more power with aftermarket tuners regardless of brand.


However, you are moving away from our original debate which was the fact that J1995 and J1349 are certifications which you stated they weren't.