3.5L V6 of 5.0L V8

troubledwaters wrote:

2112 wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

2112 wrote:
@Maury82 > I believed as you believe when I bought my 1/2 F-150 3.5EB MT. Now I know different. Your 2018 XLT HDPP weighs less than my 2011 XLT MT. I upgraded my tires and suspension but still struggled with a 35' 8600lb loaded trailer. What I lack compared to the HDPP is the heavier frame and axles. That would allow me to carry more weight but will not help with stability and sway while towing a long TT.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great truck, but it doesn't weigh enough to comfortably tow a long, heavy 'bumper pull' travel trailer. Physics is working against it. It can do it but it wasn't what I would call a vacation. Been there, done that, learned my lesson.

So apparently you think hooking a bigger truck to a trailer that handles badly is going to somehow magically fix the problem. Hooking up to a bigger truck so you can stay on the road while your trailer is swinging violently side to side behind you taking out passing cars and guardrails is not an answer. Fix the problem, and a bigger truck doesn't fix the problem.

You went out and got a trailer that weighs the same, but with twice as much pin weight/tongue weight and your problem went away. DUH!

Guess what, you're towing with the same truck and don't have a problem anymore. What Changed?

That TT tows fine with a 2500 4X4. What changed? A 3000lb heavier TV.
You make it sound like the combo was totally uncontrollable and a road hazard at all times. That wasn't the case at all. Most of the time it towed well. Most trips were uneventful and pleasant. Then there were days where we had 20 to 30 mph crosswinds that made it nerve racking and at times felt unsafe. It was certainly exhausting. The FW feels as if it works as one with the truck. The same 20 to 30 mph crosswinds have no affect on it. It doesn't have that trailer pulling the truck sideways feeling like the TT did.

That's funny, cause that ain't what you said in your other post at all. What you said was, empty or loaded lightly it towed fine, fully loaded for long camping trip it was "Squirrelly"; no mention of wind whatsoever. Now you change the story to wind. Makes it sound like to me that you're just making it up as you go along to fit whatever story you want to tell at the time. So today it's wind, got it.

The stability and sway would be the wind pushing and pulling against the trailer, causing it to rotate back and forth against the ball/rear of the truck creating the truck to rotate against its tires.

I heavier truck have weight along with stiffer tires and suspension to keep the rotation from occurring. Without those stiffer tires, I believe the heavier weight of the truck would cause just as much instability as a 1/2 ton.

I can't gain the weight of a 2/3 ton, but stiffer tires and appropriate stiffer suspension are readily available.

I believe there is a sense of agreement that stiffer E rated trailer tires contribute to enhancing against sway and better towing.


I have GY Endurance tires, and my intensions are to take as much of the wind induced rotation out of the equation with the long wheelbase, stiffer suspension/LT tires and high payload, and reducing added flexing and rotation of the trailet with the Endurance.

I've already priced high performance cross drilled rotors and pads for heat dissipation and stopping power.

This should do it, and I'm putting my money on this providing a comfortable towing situation, and as soon as Ford starts up with production this week, and get this truck delivered, I will post after a few thousand miles of towing.

This is one of those things I have to see it to believe it because of the uniqueness of the HDPP capabilities.