Nissan Titan Cummins 5.0L

I notice lots of Ex Titan diesel owners on this thread. Lots of EX owners speaks for itself

I owned a 16 XD with 5.0l diesel and it was a good truck an excellent TV. I wanted to rid myself of the Diesel engine in general and go back to gas and sold it. It’s a real shame the gas version of the truck just did have the a decent transmission/engine/ gearing combination or I would have bought one. I do miss that XD in some ways.

Pretty remarkable that Nissan is still doing well with the Frontier. No sheet metal or drivetrain changes since 2005 and it still sells reasonably well. We put 130k on a 6-speed manual 2007 Frontier with the 4.0l V6. Good truck (except for the cam tensioners).

Outside of a few changes to the grill and interior, the 2020 Tundra is the same truck that came off the assembly line in 2007. Sales may be a bit low, but Toyota more than makes up for that in reduced R&D costs.

JIMNLIN wrote:
Several players regarding the HD demise.
The Nissen XD weight specs put it in the same range as Fords F150 HDPP. I doubt Ford sells a lot of the HDPP F150s....but makes up profits with all the other F150 size trucks. Hell Ford markets the F150 with over a dozen GVWRs/5 different RAWRs. Not so with the Nissen HD.
And it is a Japans truck which is a put off for some buyers.

Its simply another good stout HD 1/2 ton truck. I don't think Japans truck mfgs want into the very competitive USA LDT market.

Ford would sell a lot more HDPP trucks if the dealers would order them. Problem is that in the DFW area that I live in, one man does most of the ordering for ALL the Ford dealerships.

He orders based on past sales and predicted trends, but the problem is that if you don't have HDPP 1/2T's on the lot, then you can't sell them on a regular basis, thus they will never become a part of your normal product mix. That's why they are harder to find than unicorns.

Most 1/2 tons are ordered as people movers with an occasional trip to Home Depot or Lowes. I worked at multiple Ford dealerships years ago and the same guy ordered for all of them.

ShinerBock wrote:
I liken this to the first Toyota Tundra which was very small compared to other half tons and under-powered. Toyota essentially tried to dictate to truck buyers what they needed in their marketing telling people that they don't need anything bigger or with more power. As many people know, Americans do not like being told what they need or what they should buy. Sales were dismal until Toyota finally came out with a larger and more powerful Tundra filled with things that the people wanted instead of what Toyota thought people needed.

Yes, Toyota nailed it when they came out with the new 5.7L, 381 HP Tundra in IIRC 2008. But they still fail to understand the US truck market, since they haven't really changed that truck much since then. The US manufacturers strive to continually improve their trucks, so today they leave the Tundra in the dust. Same with the Titan, it was a pretty nice truck when it was introduced, but did not evolve with the competition.

The Titan was never a big seller. A buddy has an older one and likes it.

JIMNLIN wrote:
I don't think Japans truck mfgs want into the very competitive USA LDT market.

I think they want into the market, but they do not understand the buyers in our market. The US truck market is not like other truck markets where the manufacturers dictate to the consumers what they need based on what they are given. We buy what we want regardless if the need is there or not.

I liken this to the first Toyota Tundra which was very small compared to other half tons and under-powered. Toyota essentially tried to dictate to truck buyers what they needed in their marketing telling people that they don't need anything bigger or with more power. As many people know, Americans do not like being told what they need or what they should buy. Sales were dismal until Toyota finally came out with a larger and more powerful Tundra filled with things that the people wanted instead of what Toyota thought people needed.

The same thing happened to all those other foreign truck makes that tried to tell us that we don't need anything more than compact trucks and those who did not adjust to what American buyers wanted went the way of the Dodo. I think Nissan tried to do the same with the XD. They figured no one buying it needs 8-lug full floating axles or more that 2,500 lb of payload. But many people here want those things whether they need them or not.

Several players regarding the HD demise.
The Nissen XD weight specs put it in the same range as Fords F150 HDPP. I doubt Ford sells a lot of the HDPP F150s....but makes up profits with all the other F150 size trucks. Hell Ford markets the F150 with over a dozen GVWRs/5 different RAWRs. Not so with the Nissen HD.
And it is a Japans truck which is a put off for some buyers.

Its simply another good stout HD 1/2 ton truck. I don't think Japans truck mfgs want into the very competitive USA LDT market.

bucky wrote:
The biggest cause of slow sales for the Titan/Cummins was the price.

Somewhat agree but not completely. In Dec 2016 I picked up a fully loaded Titan XD SL 4x4. Sticker $58k (:E), paid right about $41k out the door. Sold 2 years later for $37k. When I sold it I was looking at an F250 Lariat 4x4 and real world pricing was $56k before tax and license at the time, so more like $62k out the door in CA. The Titan XD sticker prices are stupid for what it is but real world pricing wasn't that bad.

That being said, I wouldn't doubt that some simply looked at MSRP and moved on.

The biggest cause of slow sales for the Titan/Cummins was the price.