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Nunyadamn
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Apr 14, 2014

4 point level up system

I ran across a 2014 Heartland Sundance 310BHCK that has a leveling system installed.

http://www.holmanrv.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=558276&p=3&vc=travel%20trailer&s=Year&d=A&vt=trailer&floorplan=bunkhouse&length=35-

I am moving from a class C with leveling jacks that I absolutely loved. I have not seen this system on any other trailers that I have been researching. Does anyone have any experience with this? Are there systems like this that can be retrofitted to a trailer?

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  • I was looking at the Heartland 322RES and almost pulled the trigger. I researched the jack system and did not find anyone that had problems with it. I was really impressed with the operation. The only reason I did not buy was my wife got cold feet.
  • Do these jacks actually lift the tires off the ground?
  • Depending on the weight and length I see no reason why 4pt would work. I see that Open Range offers 4pt on some of their 5'ers also. I've seen them at various CG's and yes the rears are just behind the rear axle or so. Actually that would be the perfect spot since along with the standard front location putting them behind the rear axles would eliminate bounce that you sometimes get if they were located all the way back by the bumper.
  • I have the 4 point Level Up system factory installed on a big fifth wheel.......40ft big and yes I was leary about it but after using it on more than a dozen trips I am satisfied and genuinely impressed by how well the system works. So far no issues to report and the trailer is very stable especially when compared to the old school manual stab jacks.
  • Huntindog wrote:
    I really like my Lippert jacks. They are a really ingenious design.
    I know quite a bit about how they work, due to a unfortunate oops. I gor interrupted when breaking camp before dawn, and forgot to raise the jacks.

    I was horrified at the twisted metal that resulted.
    After pricing new ones, I decided to try and fix them. It went really well, and nobody can tell it ever happened. In the process I learned just how they work. It keeps equal pressure on each pair of jacks making it impossible to rack the frame.
    Hard to describe how it does it, but it is clever.


    You should describe in a separate thread how you went about fixing/improving(?) them. Maybe I (and many others) could do something similar.

    My problems have to do with: 1) the motors being exposed to the weather (lots of reported problems there), 2) the motors not stalling before the metal arms bend, and 3) the supportable weight varies with the angle of the arm.

    Leveling pistons, like electric tongue jacks, pretty much solve all these problems, assuming the motor stalls before stripping the gears.
  • I really like my Lippert jacks. They are a really ingenious design.
    I know quite a bit about how they work, due to a unfortunate oops. I gor interrupted when breaking camp before dawn, and forgot to raise the jacks.

    I was horrified at the twisted metal that resulted.
    After pricing new ones, I decided to try and fix them. It went really well, and nobody can tell it ever happened. In the process I learned just how they work. It keeps equal pressure on each pair of jacks making it impossible to rack the frame.
    Hard to describe how it does it, but it is clever.
  • The 6 point level up system on 5th wheels is very popular with the new models and I have heard very little complaints with them. Didn't know they were putting the 4 point on travel trailers. I would not be afraid of it and it is a very desirable option.
  • Nunyadamn wrote:
    I ran across a 2014 Heartland Sundance 310BHCK that has a leveling system installed.

    http://www.holmanrv.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=558276&p=3&vc=travel%20trailer&s=Year&d=A&vt=trailer&floorplan=bunkhouse&length=35-

    I am moving from a class C with leveling jacks that I absolutely loved. I have not seen this system on any other trailers that I have been researching. Does anyone have any experience with this? Are there systems like this that can be retrofitted to a trailer?


    I too would like to know how well they work, and how much weight can they can carry.

    Unfortunately Level-Up is a Lippert product, so if anything like their electric Stab jacks, they could be poorly made/designed.
  • As six point works very well. The 4 point places the rear stabilizers just behind the axles. That IMHO leaves a lot of space for wiggle. I would not get it unless they installed a six point system first.