I ran across a 2014 Heartland Sundance 310BHCK that has a leveling system installed. http://www.holmanrv.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=558276&p=3&vc=travel%20trailer&s=Year&d=A&vt=trailer&floorplan=bunkhouse&length=35-I am moving from a class C with leveling jacks that I absolutely loved. I have not seen this system on any other trailers that I have been researching. Does anyone have any experience with this? Are there systems like this that can be retrofitted to a trailer?

As six point works very well. The 4 point places the rear stabilizers just behind the axles. That IMHO leaves a lot of space for wiggle. I would not get it unless they installed a six point system first.

Nunyadamn wrote:I ran across a 2014 Heartland Sundance 310BHCK that has a leveling system installed. http://www.holmanrv.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=558276&p=3&vc=travel%20trailer&s=Year&d=A&vt=trailer&floorplan=bunkhouse&length=35-I am moving from a class C with leveling jacks that I absolutely loved. I have not seen this system on any other trailers that I have been researching. Does anyone have any experience with this? Are there systems like this that can be retrofitted to a trailer?I too would like to know how well they work, and how much weight can they can carry.Unfortunately Level-Up is a Lippert product, so if anything like their electric Stab jacks, they could be poorly made/designed.

The 6 point level up system on 5th wheels is very popular with the new models and I have heard very little complaints with them. Didn't know they were putting the 4 point on travel trailers. I would not be afraid of it and it is a very desirable option.

I really like my Lippert jacks. They are a really ingenious design.I know quite a bit about how they work, due to a unfortunate oops. I gor interrupted when breaking camp before dawn, and forgot to raise the jacks.I was horrified at the twisted metal that resulted.After pricing new ones, I decided to try and fix them. It went really well, and nobody can tell it ever happened. In the process I learned just how they work. It keeps equal pressure on each pair of jacks making it impossible to rack the frame.Hard to describe how it does it, but it is clever.

Huntindog wrote:I really like my Lippert jacks. They are a really ingenious design.I know quite a bit about how they work, due to a unfortunate oops. I gor interrupted when breaking camp before dawn, and forgot to raise the jacks.I was horrified at the twisted metal that resulted.After pricing new ones, I decided to try and fix them. It went really well, and nobody can tell it ever happened. In the process I learned just how they work. It keeps equal pressure on each pair of jacks making it impossible to rack the frame.Hard to describe how it does it, but it is clever.You should describe in a separate thread how you went about fixing/improving(?) them. Maybe I (and many others) could do something similar. My problems have to do with: 1) the motors being exposed to the weather (lots of reported problems there), 2) the motors not stalling before the metal arms bend, and 3) the supportable weight varies with the angle of the arm. Leveling pistons, like electric tongue jacks, pretty much solve all these problems, assuming the motor stalls before stripping the gears.

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kzspree320
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
I have the Lippert 4 point electric system on my 2014 Columbus 5th wheel. It can lift the trailer completely off the ground. I did it once and had to reposition and level again (very unlevel site sloping down to lake). So far I love this system. It has been worth every penny. I would buy again if we ever buy a new RV. Good luck.
camperforlife
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
garysol wrote:
brulaz wrote:
Just looked at the Lippert web site for their Level-Up. Apparently these are hydraulic systems (no gears?)

They are electric.

The Heartland 4 point level up system used on the Sundance line as the OP mentioned is hydraulic. On the lower level Heartland Northtrail & Wilderness line they offer an electric stabilizer system.
Hondavalk
Explorer II
Apr 15, 2014
AirForceAngler wrote:
I would be more concerned about the frame of the TT instead of the leveling system. Most frames are not designed to be leveled by using any kind of jacking system, just stabilized.

That would be my main concern also.
AirForceAngler
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
I would be more concerned about the frame of the TT instead of the leveling system. Most frames are not designed to be leveled by using any kind of jacking system, just stabilized.
Nunyadamn
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
I ran across these - a little different how they lock down. I wonder if snow and ice would lock these, as well as mud and sand.

http://thebigfootleveler.com/Trailer_Systems.html

http://shop.thebigfootleveler.com/EZ-Flip-4pt-System-QEZ-9F.htm?categoryId=6
garysol
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
brulaz wrote:
Just looked at the Lippert web site for their Level-Up. Apparently these are hydraulic systems (no gears?)

They are electric.
garysol
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
Doug33 wrote:
My problem is that even after chocking and stabilizing the TT well, I still get movement inside because of the tires flexing. My axles are too far apart to make X-Chocks practical. If I'm going to be at the site more than a couple nights, I bring a couple extra scissor jacks and try to support the frame near the axles. This cuts down on some of the movement.

Doug.... You have seen the wide X-Chocks right?
brulaz
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
Just looked at the Lippert web site for their Level-Up. Apparently these are hydraulic systems (no gears?) and not available to the general public, just trailer manufacturers. So doesn't look like a retro-fit. No idea how much they cost.
Doug33
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
My problem is that even after chocking and stabilizing the TT well, I still get movement inside because of the tires flexing. My axles are too far apart to make X-Chocks practical. If I'm going to be at the site more than a couple nights, I bring a couple extra scissor jacks and try to support the frame near the axles. This cuts down on some of the movement.
garysol
Explorer
Apr 15, 2014
Doug33 wrote:
Do these jacks actually lift the tires off the ground?

They can but in normal operation they shouldn't. We had one situation where our camping site dropped away at the right rear and the leveling system wanted to pull the right side tires off the ground to achieve leveling. We had to simply re position the trailer to keep that from happening.