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Dave_Pete
Explorer II
Oct 16, 2015

5.9 Cummins Stumble

Have been experiencing an assumed fuel problem.

2006 Dodge Ram 5.9L Cummins turbo diesel. No check engine lights.

Increasing, and intermittent (becoming MUCH less intermittent) stumble and rough running under LIGHT acceleration. When the problem occurs, it almost feels like it doesn't accelerate as well under heavy demand either, but that is hard to tell - stills runs quite well at higher demand and is pulling an 8000+ lb trailer up hills quite well (I'm away from home base). The stumble seems more to be during light throttle and between 1100-1800 RPM and at speeds up to 50. At cruise (1600 RPM) a slight stumble, but not really bad at all.

Also had a few episodes of white smoke and rough cold-start idle a while back. Since then I've been using "Howes Lubricator - Diesel Treat" because at THAT fuel stop it was the one on the shelf that was for fuel injector cleaning as well as diesel conditioning and anti-gel. After a very short time, no more episodes of rough cold idle or evidence of white smoke. But still - the other light acceleration issue.

I discovered a light oily condition around the fuel filter housing screw-off lid and backside hoses, so checked the lid tightness. Yep - I failed to tighten it more than hand-tight at the last filter change! The stumble had never occurred before.

This morning I tightened it and checked the other fuel line fasteners at the pump and at the filter housing. Was able to get the housing fasteners snugged a little (not too much, but they needed it just a little) and the pump's are tight enough.

I will drive today and check see, and post new reality. I don't want to start dropping into expensive dealers and shops to start troubleshooting unless it is really necessary.

I'm away from home base and I don't have a home base diesel mechanic anyway.

Questions...

What might be my causes?

Might a loose filter housing create a condition (higher/lower pressure/suck air/etc.) prior to the pump that might cause the condition at light throttle/demand?

Can driving a little longer on a stumble like this create "serious problems"? In other words, does this thing need to go into the shop immediately or since it's not acting up at higher demand/load am I okay to continue driving and check the results today of that tightened filter housing to see if that did it?

Would the earlier intermittent condition perhaps be injectors getting cleaned up and now dropping of pieces of **** like gall stones? If so, maybe I just have to live with the stumble until it cleans up? Like I said, there seems to be a worse/better stumble at different times, even to the point where the problem was hardle noticeable.
  • My call; your going to need new injectors. Take them out and have them pop tested.

    Did the exhaust smell fuelly when you had the white smoke deal going on? Take the dip stick out and smell the oil. Does it smell fuelly? You can also do a paper towel test on the oil.
  • White smoke at start up, with cooler ambient temperatures is normal.

    Try cycling the grid heater a second time before starting, if that doesn't solve it, then it could be one or more of the following:

    - poor fuel quality, low cetane, Bio fuel percentage to high

    - inlet temp too low

    - coolant temp low

    - low compression

    - ignition timing (cam position sensor issues)

    - fuel injection issues, plugged/leaking injector (check engine oil level, has it gone up, does it smell like diesel fuel), change the fuel filter, have a injector flow test performed

    - are you running a programmer, if so set it back to "factory settings"

    That "stumble" you talk of, does it sound like a gas engine with a race/wild cam... kind of like a "looping" rough idle, one would see in Muscle cars? If so, you have an injector or more plugging off.
    How many miles on the truck, have you had the injectors redone yet?
  • Diesel-Kleen will help clean out the system. As said above, when was the last time you changed the fuel filter ?

    What kind of air-filter do you have ? Are you by chance running an after market one that is oiled ? If so, the MAF might need cleaned. If not, the MAF still might need cleaned. If you clean it, use MAF cleaner and don't touch the wire.

    The fuel filters on these late model diesels do quite a good job about filtering out crud. They have to. The injectors run at such high pressure, that particles would erode the injector tips. My 04.5 Duramax runs at 22,000 psi. As such they do get plugged up. A load of dirty fuel can cause performance issues. I carry extra fuel filters when I travel just in case.
  • How many miles?
    Sounds like a fuel system issue. Hope tightening the filter solves your issue. Have you been using bio diesel? I saw a post from someone who had to fill up with B20 and his truck is only rated for B5. That could be the problem also.
    You might try a quart of Opti-Lube to help clean up any injector issue that might be starting. Let us know what you find out.
    How is your air filter? Rodents love the air boxes on those trucks.
  • Dirty Fuel filter?
    Lift Pump going bad?
    Small leak in a fuel hose letting some air in it?