7.3L VS. 6.7L PSD

Thanks for posting the link. It was insane to actually be there to watch the near carnage. The Ford had a 5.9 also.

Those were the days when the first big power was being made.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.

My neighbor was the first to break into the 9's at near 140mph at Seattle International Raceway. 95 2wd longbed RAM bought from the local Hardware Store owner. Tubbed with street slicks, YES street legal. Auto trans with BIG Turbo's, studs and stock bottom end.
Google "Fletcher vas Maddog", it's quite impressive. He takes on a 4x4 Ford that almost looses it!

Someone provide a link? Not my expertise.

This one ?? - clicky

Grit dog wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.

Yeah that all sounds good but now back to reality.
If you could buy OEM truck with a Cummins engine,a Ford Frame and and Allison Transmission you'd sell lots of those too.
But just like unicorns these configurations do not exist.
You won't find any old school engines going into 2019 trucks.
Maybe it's nice to let our minds wander, but at the end of the day there is no point in comparing a 7.3 PSD to a 6.7 PSD unless you are discussing how the engines evolved. Otherwise there is just no comparison.
Next up Lets compare the performance of a model T vs.Tesla

No, you're right, just bsing here. 10-15 years ago, I'd say you're spot on with the Fummins with an Allison trans.
Today, heck I'd even take a new Powerstroke with no reservations. Would just hate to look at the mess under the hood!

Actually a 6.7PSD looks a lot cleaner from the bottom up then a 6.7ctd. :W

blofgren wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

blofgren wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
I would pick a bulletproofed 550 rwhp 6.0L over a 6.7L or 7.3L any day of the week and twice on Sunday. In stock form, that is a different story. Once you fix the clamping issue on the top end(head studs) and remove the problematic EGR, the bottom end of the 6.0L is proven to handle more power than both of these engines.

The 6.0L has several problems that cannot be solved with “bulletproofing” such as not enough head bolts per cylinder which can result in failed head gaskets even when studded, a POS bedplate that is prone to leaking oil that requires pulling the engine to repair, and “snowflake” injectors that seem to fail when someone walks by the truck with an ice cream cone. There are several more issues that I won’t bore everyone with the details. I’ve been there owning one, have dealt with many others at my work that were all POS sooner or later and would not wish one on anybody (or almost anybody)! :B

Sorry but the 7.3L was and is light years ahead of the 6.0L.

I have to disagree based on my experiences and what I have seen. Seen many bulletproofed 6.0L at NHRDA events and off the track with well over 300k on them handling more than 450 at the wheels all day every day. Also, don't tell Charlie Keeter this. He thrashed that 6.0L with so much nitrous to win back to back XDP Diesel Power Challenges.

LOL, you should buy one then to experience how reliable they are....been there done that and have the empty wallet to show for it. :M

I have one at our farm/ranch. It was my wife's uncles truck that I bought from him to haul cattle and tractors between properties so I did not have to use mine all the time. It had a little over 330k of hard farm life miles on it when I bought it from him. It doesn't see the road that much besides the back roads between properties and to the feed store in town which is still mostly back roads aside from an FM road for about a mile.

Lantley wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.

Yeah that all sounds good but now back to reality.
If you could buy OEM truck with a Cummins engine,a Ford Frame and and Allison Transmission you'd sell lots of those too.
But just like unicorns these configurations do not exist.
You won't find any old school engines going into 2019 trucks.
Maybe it's nice to let our minds wander, but at the end of the day there is no point in comparing a 7.3 PSD to a 6.7 PSD unless you are discussing how the engines evolved. Otherwise there is just no comparison.
Next up Lets compare the performance of a model T vs.Tesla

No, you're right, just bsing here. 10-15 years ago, I'd say you're spot on with the Fummins with an Allison trans.
Today, heck I'd even take a new Powerstroke with no reservations. Would just hate to look at the mess under the hood!

rjstractor wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
^ This. The 6.0 was a great engine that got kicked out the front door to go to work effectively only half dressed, with a gluten allergy and a lunch pail full of Wonder Bread. Lol.

Great, more wasted beer, spit onto my keyboard! :)

Sorry about the keyboard! Lol

Grit dog wrote:
The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.

Yeah that all sounds good but now back to reality.
If you could buy OEM truck with a Cummins engine,a Ford Frame and and Allison Transmission you'd sell lots of those too.
But just like unicorns these configurations do not exist.
You won't find any old school engines going into 2019 trucks.
Maybe it's nice to let our minds wander, but at the end of the day there is no point in comparing a 7.3 PSD to a 6.7 PSD unless you are discussing how the engines evolved. Otherwise there is just no comparison.
Next up Lets compare the performance of a model T vs.Tesla

Grit dog wrote:
The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.

My neighbor was the first to break into the 9's at near 140mph at Seattle International Raceway. 95 2wd longbed RAM bought from the local Hardware Store owner. Tubbed with street slicks, YES street legal. Auto trans with BIG Turbo's, studs and stock bottom end.
Google "Fletcher vas Maddog", it's quite impressive. He takes on a 4x4 Ford that almost looses it!

Someone provide a link? Not my expertise.

ShinerBock wrote:

blofgren wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
I would pick a bulletproofed 550 rwhp 6.0L over a 6.7L or 7.3L any day of the week and twice on Sunday. In stock form, that is a different story. Once you fix the clamping issue on the top end(head studs) and remove the problematic EGR, the bottom end of the 6.0L is proven to handle more power than both of these engines.

The 6.0L has several problems that cannot be solved with “bulletproofing” such as not enough head bolts per cylinder which can result in failed head gaskets even when studded, a POS bedplate that is prone to leaking oil that requires pulling the engine to repair, and “snowflake” injectors that seem to fail when someone walks by the truck with an ice cream cone. There are several more issues that I won’t bore everyone with the details. I’ve been there owning one, have dealt with many others at my work that were all POS sooner or later and would not wish one on anybody (or almost anybody)! :B

Sorry but the 7.3L was and is light years ahead of the 6.0L.

I have to disagree based on my experiences and what I have seen. Seen many bulletproofed 6.0L at NHRDA events and off the track with well over 300k on them handling more than 450 at the wheels all day every day. Also, don't tell Charlie Keeter this. He thrashed that 6.0L with so much nitrous to win back to back XDP Diesel Power Challenges.

LOL, you should buy one then to experience how reliable they are....been there done that and have the empty wallet to show for it. :M

The difference between the 7.3/6.7 Pstroke and the 5.9/6.7 Cummins, is if both mfgs dropped the old school engines in a 2019 truck with everything else that comes on a new truck, Ford would sell a few and Ram would have people lined up around the block with their wallets out.....

Aside from being noisier and not having a built in exhaust brake which is a $1500-2000 out of pocket upgrade, a 5.9 CR engine with a 2 micron fuel filter and any cheap canned tune gives up nothing to a new 6.7 Cummins.
7.3 requires more work to get to that point.