Here is a video of a tire failure that I have not seen before. I have nothing else to do right now so I thought that I would post it on here to see if anyone wanted to comment on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQJ6dQsEqj0

Tire thread separation......very common. New trailer/junk OEM tires and who knows WHAT kind of weight-----family LOADED up for 6 month journeyOnly thing really different was Hwy Patrol Officer standing guard/traffic alert.Nice to see!Trailer guy really should have pulled on forward into larger off road area vs right there on that curve.

To many variables, low pressure, road hazard, tread separation, overloading. Who knows after the fact?Always carry the tools to change your TT tire and know how to use them.It is the difference between a 20 minute delay and being stranded until road service can find you.

Yea she called it at 4:45 "was it too much air" :BI would have recommended a low cost click torque wrench with the proper 6-point socket and 6" extension over the cross wrench. And get a jack already or use the truck jack. Love the fact he has gloves but no tools :R

A few things I noticed. Overloaded F150No grease on the ball6 lug axles very possibly "D" rated tires which are borderline on that size trailer.And way too much fun!

Sadly, a typical "low information" RV owner. Not having correct tools, stopping in an unsafe place, and using low quality tires for a critical job.All preventable with prior planning and thoughtful research.EDIT: I had to chuckle when he said his salesman told him trailer tires are notorious for failing. Uh-huh. They sure are. "Stop using cheap-azz tires".

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gmw_photos
Explorer
Dec 12, 2016
proxim2020 wrote:
When it comes to a lack of information and lack of knowledge, the boat industry just about puts the RV industry to shame. There's a whole bunch of credit card captains out there. Just ask the Coast Guard lol.

Roger Marble (Tireman9) is a good guy, very helpful, knowledgeable, and an expert in the industry. The people who run this site felt that he violated some self promotion / commercial rules when it came to his blog. Lots of people still disagree with this. He was banned and his posts deleted. That's a shame because he was really making a good effort to get expert info out to the people. He still out there fighting the good fight on his blog and he keeps it update regularly with all kinds of tire related topics. Very good info.

I agree that Roger Marble is a jewel among our activities when it comes to sharing information regarding tires.
Another that has helped me come to a better understanding is Barry Smith. If you do a search for Barry's Tire Tech, you can find his blog.
Anonymous
Dec 12, 2016
When it comes to a lack of information and lack of knowledge, the boat industry just about puts the RV industry to shame. There's a whole bunch of credit card captains out there. Just ask the Coast Guard lol.

Roger Marble (Tireman9) is a good guy, very helpful, knowledgeable, and an expert in the industry. The people who run this site felt that he violated some self promotion / commercial rules when it came to his blog. Lots of people still disagree with this. He was banned and his posts deleted. That's a shame because he was really making a good effort to get expert info out to the people. He still out there fighting the good fight on his blog and he keeps it update regularly with all kinds of tire related topics. Very good info.
myredracer
Explorer II
Dec 10, 2016
The TT industry is like no other. What is sad is that when you buy a TT, NOBODY tells you that there is a speed rating on the tires and that there are other things you need to be aware of with ST tires (overload & under-inflation). A dealer never says anything, factory says nothing and there's no sticker above the tires. Isn't until someone has a blowout that they *might* find out if they go onto an RV forum - where it's often simply the cheap Chinese tires that are blamed...

We got the optional LRD Goodyear tires offered by our TT manufacturer when we ordered it. For fun, I asked the sales guy at the dealer why anyone would order those and his answer was "I dunno". Not surprised.

There are some tire experts out there that try and make the world a safer and better place for RV owners like Roger and his RV tire safety blog. Unfortunately, he got banned from the forum (no problem on other forums tho.)
westend
Explorer
Dec 09, 2016
rbpru wrote:
Well all I can say is time has past us old fuddy duddies by.

True, but remember what tires were when we started driving? They were bias ply tires made from natural rubber, most likely, and, if you were as broke as I was when young, they sometimes looked like baloney skins. Also, there was a lot less Interstate or well improved road.

It all added up to needing the skill of changing a tire and no one thought it was a bad thing. If anyone was caught with a flat and no means to change it, they were roundly scolded and labeled as an idiot.

Today, people can't be inconvenienced with such things. An example: A friend of mine bought property in FL, mainly to dodge taxes. He moved his Wife and kids down there so there would be no question about residency. He stayed in MN during the week to operate his business. He got a call, one week, from his Missus who was stuck on the freeway with her new Jaguar, stalled. He explained to her that there was little he could do from 1500 mi. away and to call AAA. The tow driver eventually arrived and found she had run the car out of gas. It never occurred to her that she would have to add gas into the car. :? :R
Huntindog
Explorer
Dec 09, 2016
LIKE2BUILD wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
A few things I noticed.
Overloaded F150
No grease on the ball
6 lug axles very possibly "D" rated tires which are borderline on that size trailer.
And way too much fun!

Quite likely. My old TT came originally with C load range tires. At 50PSI the sidewalls always looked squishy. I think those were rated for something like 1700lbs per tire for a total of 6800. But wait, the TT had a GVWR of 7,600lbs :E Yep, they were planning on the 800 pound difference being on the tongue.

My wheels were rated for 65PSI so I went up to load range D tires that were rated at 2500lbs per tire. Never had another squishy side wall after that.

Oh, and not having all tools necessary to change a flat is just bad planning.

KJ
I DO think that a TT should come with basic tire changing tools, just like automobiles do. I was surprised to find that my first new TT did not have this as basic equipment.... The spare was an option that I paid for, one would think that it would come with a rudimentry way to put it on.
Robert_B
Explorer
Dec 09, 2016
Video reminds me of the movie "Vacation".
LIKE2BUILD
Explorer
Dec 09, 2016
dodge guy wrote:
A few things I noticed.
Overloaded F150
No grease on the ball
6 lug axles very possibly "D" rated tires which are borderline on that size trailer.
And way too much fun!

Quite likely. My old TT came originally with C load range tires. At 50PSI the sidewalls always looked squishy. I think those were rated for something like 1700lbs per tire for a total of 6800. But wait, the TT had a GVWR of 7,600lbs :E Yep, they were planning on the 800 pound difference being on the tongue.

My wheels were rated for 65PSI so I went up to load range D tires that were rated at 2500lbs per tire. Never had another squishy side wall after that.

Oh, and not having all tools necessary to change a flat is just bad planning.

KJ
rbpru
Explorer II
Dec 09, 2016
Well all I can say is time has past us old fuddy duddies by.

Some new cars do not come with a spare tire and if you order one there is only room for a donut. It appears folks do not get enough flat tires to worry about it and when they do they call road service or use the fix-a-flat that comes with the car.

I have had three flats while towing, two on the TV and one on the TT. They were all road hazard punctures and fortunately I was at the campsite when I changed them. Never lost a tire.

I change them myself, because I don't have the patience to wait for road service and it takes about twenty minutes. Others it seems are fine with letting others do it instead.

But then I still use maps to back up my GPS because I may want to take an alternate route. The GPS figures it out eventually.

It is a mind set, I will do what I can when I can. Others find it far easier to let the pros do it.
deltabravo
Nomad
Dec 08, 2016
Soundtrack on the video - Broke for Free, The Gold Lining.
deltabravo
Nomad
Dec 08, 2016
I kick myself for not hitting the road and traveling when I had the opportunity between 2012 and 2014 when I wasn't working, but had other sources of income.