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blt2ski
Apr 09, 2018Moderator
I'll tow trailers up to 2x the GRAWR with out thinking twice. The OPs rig has a 3950 GRAWR, so around 8000 lbs, plus 20-25% depending upon speeds etc.
It takes 105HP to motivate a rig at 15K lbs and 70 sq ft of frontal area at 60 mph. 15K with with 90 sqft is 135HP. Some other comparisons, 18K at 70sqft is 115HP, 25K at 70 sqft is 135HP at 60 mph. Reality is, for some of you worried about weight! Frontal area can add many more hp than just weight! about 1000 lbs additional, is equal to 2 sq ft of additional front area!
Another number to think about, at 15K lbs, one needs about 40hp to pull 60 mph per 1% grade.
Lets assume OP is at 15K and 90 sqft. 135 to go 60 mph. He has 285hp, no issues. 285 less 135 is 150hp. 150/40 = 3.75! so potentially, the OP can pull a 3-4% grade at 60 mph assuming the motor is WOT/Redlined......Lets ask another question, how many of you pull longer grades at WTO/redline? I don't!
This rig will probably pull a 3-4% grade like my sons reg cab 1500 with a 4.60E trans, and 4.8 V8 with similar hp/torque spec with 3.42 gear, 1" smaller diam tires at around 50-55 mph. Yes we did that towing my C2500 home on a trailer when the fuel pump went out 60 miles from home. Yes we were in 2nd gear pulling 5000 rpm, motor was not screaming. My votec 350 with 255hp/335 torque 4.10 gears with the closer space taller geared 4l80E is similar. By the way, Rich's 1500 has an overall low 1st gear and 2nd gear better spaced setup than my 2500!
I really do not see an issue with the OP pulling a 6K trailer. Assuming they do not mind slowing into the low to mid 50's on a steeper 4-6% freeway grade.
If they can not quite hold direct lets say, but power is there in higher rpm, with a RWD, 1 diff, $1000 switch RA out to 3.73 gears, away you go!
Another point, this truck has around 2000 lbs of payload capacity on the RA. I'm looking at reg cabs, figure they have up to 2200-2400 on the RA. They typically have a ton of payload to the gvwr, plus 700 to axel capacity totals. Load correct, potentially 2500-2800 lbs of total payload if loaded and spread correctly. Where I live, I would have to register at 8000 lbs gvw. Reality is, 8000 less a 4800 lbs tare truck, 3200 lbs on the truck before I am literally illegal per state weight laws!
Buy the trailer and GO CAMPING!
Marty
It takes 105HP to motivate a rig at 15K lbs and 70 sq ft of frontal area at 60 mph. 15K with with 90 sqft is 135HP. Some other comparisons, 18K at 70sqft is 115HP, 25K at 70 sqft is 135HP at 60 mph. Reality is, for some of you worried about weight! Frontal area can add many more hp than just weight! about 1000 lbs additional, is equal to 2 sq ft of additional front area!
Another number to think about, at 15K lbs, one needs about 40hp to pull 60 mph per 1% grade.
Lets assume OP is at 15K and 90 sqft. 135 to go 60 mph. He has 285hp, no issues. 285 less 135 is 150hp. 150/40 = 3.75! so potentially, the OP can pull a 3-4% grade at 60 mph assuming the motor is WOT/Redlined......Lets ask another question, how many of you pull longer grades at WTO/redline? I don't!
This rig will probably pull a 3-4% grade like my sons reg cab 1500 with a 4.60E trans, and 4.8 V8 with similar hp/torque spec with 3.42 gear, 1" smaller diam tires at around 50-55 mph. Yes we did that towing my C2500 home on a trailer when the fuel pump went out 60 miles from home. Yes we were in 2nd gear pulling 5000 rpm, motor was not screaming. My votec 350 with 255hp/335 torque 4.10 gears with the closer space taller geared 4l80E is similar. By the way, Rich's 1500 has an overall low 1st gear and 2nd gear better spaced setup than my 2500!
I really do not see an issue with the OP pulling a 6K trailer. Assuming they do not mind slowing into the low to mid 50's on a steeper 4-6% freeway grade.
If they can not quite hold direct lets say, but power is there in higher rpm, with a RWD, 1 diff, $1000 switch RA out to 3.73 gears, away you go!
Another point, this truck has around 2000 lbs of payload capacity on the RA. I'm looking at reg cabs, figure they have up to 2200-2400 on the RA. They typically have a ton of payload to the gvwr, plus 700 to axel capacity totals. Load correct, potentially 2500-2800 lbs of total payload if loaded and spread correctly. Where I live, I would have to register at 8000 lbs gvw. Reality is, 8000 less a 4800 lbs tare truck, 3200 lbs on the truck before I am literally illegal per state weight laws!
Buy the trailer and GO CAMPING!
Marty
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